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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

    Going into a huge gathering is like going into the battlefield/warzone regarding this Pandemic.

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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Warm and sunny with night time t-storms
  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
    7 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:

    Is it electronic on phones, just wondering in case they eventually do something similar here, I have no printer. 

    No, but you are allowed to hand write your own if you have no printer but since, as I said earlier, you need one for each day and one for each activity each day (here anyway) you'd be spending your entire time writing. I'm going to have one with all the relevant boxes ticked per day and claim ignorance I think!

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  • Location: SE London
  • Location: SE London
    8 minutes ago, Spikecollie said:

    It's not just one piece of paper, Nick. I was just on the Government website where you download the form and you have to have one for each day and one for each reason you are out of the house - running, cycling, dog walking, shopping, work. I'll be bloody snowed under with sheets of paper by the end of this.

    Probably the only snow you will see this winter/spring ?

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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Warm and sunny with night time t-storms
  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)

    Just been told by SMS that I am to be issued with masks for work and they will be delivered tomorrow.

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  • Location: Cheltenham
  • Location: Cheltenham

    Always keen to explore new ideas.. What are the chances of this virus having been circulating around the UK for some time before the first case was officially confirmed.

    Were some "regular" flu deaths over Christmas/New Year actually this new thing and not accounted as such?

    TBH I've never known a winter like it in terms of people close to me with a virus, lung problems, etc..

    Might be something which comes out in the wash in due course.

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  • Location: County end Oldham 202 m Above sea level
  • Location: County end Oldham 202 m Above sea level
    14 minutes ago, pip22 said:

    Going into a huge gathering is like going into the battlefield/warzone regarding this Pandemic.

    Which is why Cheltenham will be the source of an enquiry down the line, whenever normality returns.

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  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
    1 minute ago, Dagmar said:

    Always keen to explore new ideas.. What are the chances of this virus having been circulating around the UK for some time before the first case was officially confirmed.

    Were some "regular" flu deaths over Christmas/New Year actually this new thing and not accounted as such?

    TBH I've never known a winter like it in terms of people close to me with a virus, lung problems, etc..

    Might be something which comes out in the wash in due course.

    This has been echoed by many in this thread and all over social media. I had a very intense respiratory illness over Christmas - very likely the flu but I had a day or so where I struggled to breathe which is less common.

    It's unlikely but in my very humble opinion, not impossible.

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
    2 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:

    Which is why Cheltenham will be the source of an enquiry down the line, whenever normality returns.

    I know, what a stupid idea it was to keep those massive sporting events going for that week, at a time when the whole of Europe had more or less already shut down. We knew this would be the case, so many of us were saying that the government was being way too slow in introducing these measures of banning gathering.

    Also, many children are being kept at home at the moment, starting to look almost pointless keeping schools open at the moment in the way we are seeing.

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  • Location: Sedgley 225metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Summer heatwaves and electrical storms, and fidgid Arctic type winters
  • Location: Sedgley 225metres above sea level
    48 minutes ago, matty007 said:

    if you can't see the analogy made, then I am at a loss. Something does not have to be fought with  guns and military to be a war. A war can be described as anything that pits you against a foe. This virus is absoutely a foe.  And no, without Flu vaccines, we would absoutely NOT see a situation like this every year. Flu vaccines are largely ineffective in the general population against many strains of Flu. Yes, they save lives, but it would be rather silly to say that we would have pandemics without them.

    Take some time and research Influenza vaccines. You will quickly establish that for many cases, they are woefully ineffective.

     

    Spot on matty, in 2017/2018 we had over 15,000 deaths from flu in the UK, namely due to the fact the vaccines was giving insufficient protection.. I think we received over 50,000 winter deaths also.. So i shudder to think what would have happened if this virus started doing the rounds in December on top of a cold winter! So basically some of these flu vaccines can sometimes end up being only effective for a few in 10...keeping up with the varients of influenza can be extremely hard work. 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
    2 hours ago, Sky Full said:

    WARNING  - CONTROVERSIAL POST ALERT!  I can't help thinking that the policy of protecting the NHS above all else may be wrong if by doing that substantial numbers of businesses throughout the whole country are brought to their knees by the enforced self-isolation of the work force.  This would leave the country in a very poor economic state for years to come.

    Perhaps it would be better simply to let everyone carry on as normal and only those who contract the virus stay at home for a couple of weeks until they recover.  A majority of the population takes more than two weeks off for holidays anyway so this couldn't bring commerce to a halt on its own.

    The NHS seems destined to be overwhelmed by this whatever we do so we must all be prepared to be denied a hospital bed if we get this virus but it seems most people are recovering at home without serious suffering.  

    This is why it makes sense for only the most vulnerable groups to isolate themselves while everyone else gains immunity.  I would controversially suggest that very many over 70 and those with serious or life threatening illnesses are probably not working anyway so their isolation will make little or no difference to the running of the country.

    I think that was roughly the original plan, they've changed it for a reason, and it's not to protect the NHS but us, don't confuse trying to keep the mortality rate low by not over swamping the NHS all at once, as protecting the NHS. If they get swamped more people die. 

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  • Location: Mid Essex
  • Location: Mid Essex
    1 hour ago, Blessed Weather said:

    The COVID-19 topic in the Netweather Learning & Research Area continues to be updated. Here are the latest entries where you will find onward links to the respective websites:

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    • CV19 and pregnancy by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists.

     

    Good have good nitty gritty information and not wild speculation from the Twitterarty and the likes

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
    2 hours ago, Azazel said:

    So i've arrived at work. I can absolutely work from home. Everyone so far is carrying on as normal. Should I say something? The official Government advice is to work from home if you can. I wan't to stay safe and keep others safe and I'm a little concerned we aren't going to be allowed because our branch manager doesn't trust us enough to work from home.

    Has your boss with sick children stayed at home today re new government guidelines? 

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  • Location: County end Oldham 202 m Above sea level
  • Location: County end Oldham 202 m Above sea level
    7 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:

    I think that was roughly the original plan, they've changed it for a reason, and it's not to protect the NHS but us, don't confuse trying to keep the mortality rate low by not over swamping the NHS all at once, as protecting the NHS. If they get swamped more people die. 

    Its getting  more worrying by the day.

    I fall into the strict social isolation category due to an underlying health condition, i honestly dont know whether i should go to work as 400 people work there and i certainly cannot adhere to the strict social isolation policy if i go to work.

    I also have a mortgage , what a mess.

    Will work have to suspend me on health and or insurance grounds? Who makes the decision? Me or work?

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  • Location: Mid Essex
  • Location: Mid Essex
    1 hour ago, jonboy said:

    This is getting ridiculous. This is not a war. What next trenches and machine gun posts to stop strangers entering your community?

    The reason we have these restrictions is because of the effect it has on the most vulnerable.  Lets be clear if we didn't have flu vaccines we would be in this position every year. This virus has developed very quickly because we have an open world. 

    Lessons have not been learnt from Sars however we are already seeing promise for a vaccine based on the Sars pathogen. We not be able to vaccinate the whole world by next year but perhaps we will be able to vaccinate the most vulnerable.

    What this tells us in an open world we should not go down an isolationist route but be open and work with all to achieve common goals 

    I wasn’t considering it war but a massive challenge. In doing so worth considering what has happened for other major events to try and judge what to do now.

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  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
    5 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:

    Has your boss with sick children stayed at home today re new government guidelines? 

    He's not in this office but I believe he's gone into another office. They're having a management meeting on Skype right now I believe with regards to the plan.

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  • Location: Penn, Wolverhampton
  • Weather Preferences: Cold snowy and frosty
  • Location: Penn, Wolverhampton
    2 hours ago, Snipper said:

    As a connected aside do some essential oils kill the virus? So many claims made. Thinking of the likes of Teatree and Lavender Oil.  Absolutely no intention of rushing out and buying any.  Just interested. 

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    I’ve mixed an air mister spray up - tea tree, clove oil, eucalyptus.  If it doesn’t do any good as an anti-viral I figured it cannot do any harm.    

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
    19 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

    Spot on matty, in 2017/2018 we had over 15,000 deaths from flu in the UK, namely due to the fact the vaccines was giving insufficient protection.. I think we received over 50,000 winter deaths also.. So i shudder to think what would have happened if this virus started doing the rounds in December on top of a cold winter! So basically some of these flu vaccines can sometimes end up being only effective for a few in 10...keeping up with the varients of influenza can be extremely hard work. 

    The way it is going i can't see us ever having that problem in the UK.

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
    10 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:

    Its getting  more worrying by the day.

    I fall into the strict social isolation category due to an underlying health condition, i honestly dont know whether i should go to work as 400 people work there and i certainly cannot adhere to the strict social isolation policy if i go to work.

    I also have a mortgage , what a mess.

    Will work have to suspend me on health and or insurance grounds? Who makes the decision? Me or work?

    I think some of these issues are going to be answered at the press conference, apparently the chancellor is going to be done it today.

    I think there must be some pretty hefty left wing style policies, ideologically it will be against what they want to do, but people need that safety blanket at the moment otherwise the whole system is going to collapse.

    What a mess, it was always going to be bad even with the perfect policy, but hard to feel like they haven't somewhat botched this...

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

    The first of what will be many retailers going bust in the weeks and months ahead sadly

     

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  • Location: just behind Epsom Racecourse and the center of York
  • Location: just behind Epsom Racecourse and the center of York
    10 minutes ago, Snipper said:

    I wasn’t considering it war but a massive challenge. In doing so worth considering what has happened for other major events to try and judge what to do now.

    I agree it is a massive challenge. I have a daughter with CP and uses a power chair and a communication aid, however she is very fit and health. She plays a Paralympic sport and is selected for Tokyo. The advice now given by her coaches and medical support is that she should basically not have contact with anyone outside her close circle of support which means I have to do the same which means no external meetings and everything by conference/video meetings.

    For all those who have booked delivery slots for the next 3 / 4 weeks consider those who actually have little or no ability to go to the shops. My daughter cannot get a delivery which means she has to rely on others now to buy her basics. There is little consideration being given to the impact on those vulnerable people who may be healthy but are now scared to venture beyond the front door. Little is being done to support these people.

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  • Location: Mid Essex
  • Location: Mid Essex
    42 minutes ago, Spikecollie said:

    No, but you are allowed to hand write your own if you have no printer but since, as I said earlier, you need one for each day and one for each activity each day (here anyway) you'd be spending your entire time writing. I'm going to have one with all the relevant boxes ticked per day and claim ignorance I think!

    Watch it you might be carted off to the Bastille.

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
    11 minutes ago, Snowycat said:
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    I’ve mixed an air mister spray up - tea tree, clove oil, eucalyptus.  If it doesn’t do any good as an anti-viral I figured it cannot do any harm.    

    Interestingly in the pharmacy kit I was given to make up my own hand gel as they had run out of that they included tea tree oil in that .

    But not sure if that was done for its anti microbial properties or just for the smell to mask the alcohol .

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  • Location: Mid Essex
  • Location: Mid Essex
    36 minutes ago, Dagmar said:

    Always keen to explore new ideas.. What are the chances of this virus having been circulating around the UK for some time before the first case was officially confirmed.

    Were some "regular" flu deaths over Christmas/New Year actually this new thing and not accounted as such?

    TBH I've never known a winter like it in terms of people close to me with a virus, lung problems, etc..

    Might be something which comes out in the wash in due course.

    Yes there has been a lot of speculation about this on this thread for a while.

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