COVID-19 Pandemic

[ArHu3]

3 minutes ago, Azazel said:

Paracetamol is like gold dust at the moment. I have ibuprofen to hand. Paracetamol is also brutal on the liver.

stick to the recommended amount (no more than 4g/day) and paracetamol is perfectly safe for the liver, still worried take it with acetylcysteine (fluimicil)

[WillinGlossop]

[Summer Sun]

It would appear the 171 new cases released in the update were Scotland ONLY. Someone's published it a bit early by the looks of it. Expect a sharp rise once all the data is added later.

Scottish test numbers issued at 2pm today

A total of 4,895 Scottish tests have concluded. Of these:

• 4,724 tests were confirmed negative
• 171 tests were positive

[Bristawl Si]

EU says no non-essential travel allowed to the EU for 30 days, from today. Just announced on Sky News.

Before anyone asks, i do not know how they are defining "non-essential travel".

Edited March 16, 2020 by Bristle boy

[kold weather]

5 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

It would appear the 171 new cases released in the update were Scotland ONLY. Someone's published it a bit early by the looks of it. Expect a sharp rise once all the data is added later.

Scottish test numbers issued at 2pm today

A total of 4,895 Scottish tests have concluded. Of these:

• 4,724 tests were confirmed negative
• 171 tests were positive

Damn what a goof to make, this does nothing to help the confidence in these guys!!!

We also know death toll is at least 37 based on the death in Wales and Southampton.

Edited March 16, 2020 by kold weather

[Summer Sun]

A member of Pirelli's F1 team tested positive for coronavirus in Australia yesterday

Source: Sky News

[Spikecollie]

4 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

EU says no non-essential travel allowed to the EU for 30 days, from today. Just announced on Sky News.

Oh, NO, NO, NO! I stuck alone with this "thing that has come among us" for a month - I'll have to find a way to get my OH here...

Edited March 16, 2020 by Spikecollie

[Skullzrulerz]

7 minutes ago, WillinGlossop said:

 

3 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

It would appear the 171 new cases released in the update were Scotland ONLY. Someone's published it a bit early by the looks of it. Expect a sharp rise once all the data is added later.

Scottish test numbers issued at 2pm today

A total of 4,895 Scottish tests have concluded. Of these:

• 4,724 tests were confirmed negative
• 171 tests were positive

I don't understand how they could make a error like this I just hope that this is the full number 

[Gael_Force]

4 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

EU says no non-essential travel allowed to the EU for 30 days, from today. Just announced on Sky News.

Before anyone asks, i do not know how they are defining "non-essential travel".

Should solve the dilemma of those arguing about travel and allow for refunds and insurance to kick in.

[Bristawl Si]

1 minute ago, Spikecollie said:

Oh, NO, NO, NO!

Sky News announced it, but no further detail, as yet. Guess, you should soon see announcement on your French news channel?

[WillinGlossop]

1 minute ago, Skullzrulerz said:

 

I don't understand how they could make a error like this I just hope that this is the full number 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
yet this has updated as 152

[Azazel]

11 minutes ago, ArHu3 said:

stick to the recommended amount (no more than 4g/day) and paracetamol is perfectly safe for the liver, still worried take it with acetylcysteine (fluimicil)

I'll probably take both if I can actually get hold of some paracetamol but we shall see.

I've got some zinc lozenges now so i'm basically immune anyway.

[Spikecollie]

3 minutes ago, Gael_Force said:

Should solve the dilemma of those arguing about travel and allow for refunds and insurance to kick in.

"But this ban would not apply to citizens from the handful of EU member states that are outside the Schengen area (such as Croatia, Ireland, Cyprus or the UK - which is treated as a member state during the Brexit transition period.)" (Source: BBC live)

Panic over, for now...

[alexisj9]

35 minutes ago, Flash bang flash bang etc said:

They would freeze mortgage payments and therefore it would be expected (if not enforced) that rents would be halted temporarily as a direct result.

That’s my take on it anyway  

My daughter at uni has been advised by a friend, estate agent, to ask for a month off rent if the pub she works at closes, he said don't be afraid to ask, it is expected because of the situation. 

[Bristawl Si]

2 minutes ago, Spikecollie said:

"But this ban would not apply to citizens from the handful of EU member states that are outside the Schengen area (such as Croatia, Ireland, Cyprus or the UK - which is treated as a member state during the Brexit transition period.)" (Source: BBC live)

Panic over, for now...

Live on Sky News now, Euro Commission head.

Good, you should be ok then.

[Godber 1]

6 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

It would appear the 171 new cases released in the update were Scotland ONLY. Someone's published it a bit early by the looks of it. Expect a sharp rise once all the data is added later.

Scottish test numbers issued at 2pm today

A total of 4,895 Scottish tests have concluded. Of these:

• 4,724 tests were confirmed negative
• 171 tests were positive

The only problem with those figures is the vast majority of people who feel unwell are being told to self-isolate, whilst not being tested. In 

fact they are only testing people in hospital. so the figures mean nothing, apart from the poor unfortunates that have succumbed to the virus.

[MAF]

Can I stress this point again. Recommending any form of medication is probably not right without professional advice. Every single person will be different and even taking the recommended dose of a medicine could be bad for some without checking with their GP. I think it's playing with fire to suggest medicine on a forum. Just my opinion.  

[Azazel]

Yes, why are we releasing hospital figures? What's the point? It kind of made sense when they were testing patients in the community, but now it's sort of pointless IMO.

Another thing that worries me, is if I get the sniffles, I should self isolate. Fine. For someone like me though who always has the sniffles due to allergies and all-sorts of nonsense, how will we know when its the real deal?

[alexisj9]

20 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

It would appear the 171 new cases released in the update were Scotland ONLY. Someone's published it a bit early by the looks of it. Expect a sharp rise once all the data is added later.

Scottish test numbers issued at 2pm today

A total of 4,895 Scottish tests have concluded. Of these:

• 4,724 tests were confirmed negative
• 171 tests were positive

Ouch 

 

[swebby]

49 minutes ago, Azazel said:

 

Regarding Ibuprofen use - a virologist offers a counter-argument to ibuprofen = bad.

 

Also on Dr Rasmussen's thread is this

The US health care "system" is utterly hatstand!

[alexisj9]

19 minutes ago, Spikecollie said:

Oh, NO, NO, NO! I stuck alone with this "thing that has come among us" for a month - I'll have to find a way to get my OH here...

I hope you get him home. 

[alexisj9]

24 minutes ago, WillinGlossop said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
yet this has updated as 152

What on earth

[Gray-Wolf]

42 minutes ago, Azazel said:

Paracetamol is like gold dust at the moment. I have ibuprofen to hand. Paracetamol is also brutal on the liver.

If I have to resort to the full sweep of 'Parrots'/'Brufen'/DHC's I know I'll also be dealing with the 'impacts' that such long term exposure leads to?

Part of the reason I pull back from my 'Dr's orders and rather defer to the Anethesist who advised us in 'Pain clinic' (about using our meds 'to suit' our circumstances?) is to spare the 'complications'!

The meds I've given up 'messing with' are my 'Dizzie pills and my DHC's , these are 'Needed' with a capital 'N' otherwise I'm bedridden!

For temp control we used to use a 'rolling programme' to keep temps under check.

'Parrots' is 4 times a day and 'Brufen' 3 times a day so with 'spacing' the 24 hr period can be covered?

Try and keep your temp controlled, don't wait 'till you think you 'need it' as it'll take a while to be 'up and running' so just keep to the rolling prog times until the 'temperatures phase' is past?

Keep up to your fluids otherwise you risk your body 'Robbing fluids' from other areas (blood/stools) leading to their own issues!

If 'Chesty' prop up your bed on a few books and prop yourself up with pillows to keep airways clear.

'Vicks' on the souls of your feet as you go to bed also appears effective at keeping airways clear (ask an 'aromatherapy' dude why this should work or rub Garlic on the souls of your feet and see just how long it is before your armpits honk of Garlic?)

Avante! NetW!!!

Edited March 16, 2020 by Gray-Wolf

[Zak M]

 

[summer blizzard]

9 minutes ago, Azazel said:

Yes, why are we releasing hospital figures? What's the point? It kind of made sense when they were testing patients in the community, but now it's sort of pointless IMO.

Another thing that worries me, is if I get the sniffles, I should self isolate. Fine. For someone like me though who always has the sniffles due to allergies and all-sorts of nonsense, how will we know when its the real deal?

According to the guy on Politics Live the movement to delay phase means that they have accepted that containment has now failed overall (though we still did better than our european peers) which means that the value of more random testing is reduced vs identifying who in worse than mild cases (i.e. those in hospital) has it. 

The other two points are that firstly we only currently have the capacity to process 10,000 samples per day (the number should bump tomorrow since Sat and Sun showed a fall in testing - labs closed) which means deciding who is a testing priority and also that the rate of infection within hospitals (that percentage of cases to tests) is still a very good indicator of the wider numbers in society.

Ultimately there is little we can do until we see clear evidence from the likes of Italy that european quarantine lite works. Plus its better to do it in one sharp go than fail early and have to keep extending because we risked going for blind degrees of lockdown.