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  • Location: Burton-on-Trent (90m), Larnaka most Augusts
  • Location: Burton-on-Trent (90m), Larnaka most Augusts
10 minutes ago, Azazel said:

So anyway my boss just walked in the office.

He says his two young children have a fever and a cough, but because he's not sick, he "doesn't have it" so doesn't need to stay away. He was then laughing and joking about it "breathing" around the office etc.

I give up. I'm going to go home later, walk my dog and practice some meditation/relaxation and just accept the fact I will catch this soon and it may very well kill me. What's the point. It's out of my hands.

That is ridiculous, people like that will never learn until they're the ones on the hospital bed unfortunately 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
11 minutes ago, Azazel said:

So anyway my boss just walked in the office.

He says his two young children have a fever and a cough, but because he's not sick, he "doesn't have it" so doesn't need to stay away. He was then laughing and joking about it "breathing" around the office etc.

I give up. I'm going to go home later, walk my dog and practice some meditation/relaxation and just accept the fact I will catch this soon and it may very well kill me. What's the point. It's out of my hands.

He's following the advise on my recent letter from school, if a child is ill keep them home but other family members siblings that are not ill should carry on as normal. I think it's the current government advice. 

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
12 minutes ago, Snipper said:

Surprised so many seem to treat any change in the governments recommendations and actions as a U turn. All along they have said that things will be a progression. 

It's not a u turn agreed. However it is an acknowledgement that things are moving faster than their model expected (Beth Rigby has said as much from her sources) and that therefore had to put their modelling into question.

If a storm was modelled originally to come in at 144hrs and then the 12z run brings it forward 36hrs, it would make me seriously question whether it is accurate in the first place or whether it's modelling of the storm could be relied upon.

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  • Location: Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Very Cold, Very Snowy
  • Location: Midlands

Reports that prisoners to be released so that they are not in crowded risky cells (shut away from sources of virus) but those of the public that won't self isolate to be locked up.....

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  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

He's following the advise on my recent letter from school, if a child is ill keep them home but other family members siblings that are not ill should carry on as normal. I think it's the current government advice. 

I guess I can understand that - however, coming into the office when you absolutely can work from home (he's the boss and makes the calls) and then "inhaling and breathing out forcefully" everywhere to "spread" his germs is f*****g outrageous. If I didn't have a mortgage and was back in my late teens/early 20's, I would've walked out there and then. Probably would've got into a fight too.

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian
1 minute ago, Climate Man said:

Reports that prisoners to be released so that they are not in crowded risky cells (shut away from sources of virus) but those of the public that won't self isolate to be locked up.....

Where are the reports?

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  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
2 minutes ago, matty007 said:

How old are you? Late twenties? Thirties? You probably have more chance of dying in a car crash than you do of dying of this. This is exactly the type of over exaggeration I'm trying to curtail.

You WILL get  this, in all likelihood . I'm virtually guaranteed to get it seeing as I am around COVID patients often. Both of us will not die, trust me. Just worry about your grandparents
At work now, so can't post until later.

Take care all.

I'm exactly mid thirties as of Thursday just gone. My partner is a nurse so I am very likely to get it regardless. My grandparents are both dead haha but I know what you meant - I'm mainly focused on looking after my elderly parents.

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
1 minute ago, Azazel said:

I guess I can understand that - however, coming into the office when you absolutely can work from home (he's the boss and makes the calls) and then "inhaling and breathing out forcefully" everywhere to "spread" his germs is f*****g outrageous. If I didn't have a mortgage and was back in my late teens/early 20's, I would've walked out there and then. Probably would've got into a fight too.

I do agree that he shouldn't be breathing on purpose in people's faces like that, or even in close proximity, but I guess he just isn't thinking. Doesn't realise he's causing anxiety. 

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  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Winter Snow, extreme weather, mainly sunny mild summers though.
  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
54 minutes ago, Azazel said:

Yes, many people in this thread(myself included) and all over social media have shared stories of a mystery illness that very much resembled Covid occuring between Nov 2019-Jan 2020.

I had the same symptoms as you in early February, was in London all day Sunday 2nd Feb, around China town, some pubs, visited relatives, on the underground, trains so I think there's a good chance that I caught a bug that day. Then on the Thursday morning that was it for three days exactly, I kept thinking to myself that it was much worse than a normal flu with lots of coughing and spluttering, then a recovery that was up and down for about three weeks with little energy and aches and pains. A doctor friend thinks there's a good chance that I have had it already.

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  • Location: Newtownards, Northern Ireland
  • Weather Preferences: whatever the weather, I'll be watching.
  • Location: Newtownards, Northern Ireland

I also had something just a couple weeks ago, very dry, hot throat and coughing, headache and a couple nights of fever and sweating, the one that kinda makes you jolt up before you are just about to doze off. I still have remnants of the dry-ish throat but its nothing like it was. I doubt severely that this was the virus, but with the whole mix of severity in symptoms and the lack of a quick test, I'll never know until I catch the real thing (assuming this wasn't it).

I don't think I was in contact with anyone who may have had it, but I developed these symptoms after a friend in work was coughing and spluttering without covering mouth for a few days, he had the dry cough and throat, and he had been sick for couple weeks.

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  • Location: Folkestone, Kent 101ft/30m ASL
  • Location: Folkestone, Kent 101ft/30m ASL
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Test frontline NHS staff for COVID-19 as a priority.

Please sign if you agree that you think NHS staff exhibiting symptoms of Covid-19 should be tested. I still cannot believe that they are not testing them if ill anyway, craziness!

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2 hours ago, BornFromTheVoid said:

No, he is not. He's a world expert in mathematical risk analysis and the study of complex systems. He literally wrote the book on Black Swan events, rare and significant events that shape the world in disproportionate ways. Because he also does some philosophy doesn't mean you can simply dismiss him as a philosopher. That's incredibly disingenuous. 

So why have behavioural and medical scientists, if a mathematical risk analyst can do the job better? All these "experts" are always going to pop up at times like these, but that doesnt mean they're "experts"!!

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
Just now, emax said:

So why have behavioural and medical scientists, if a mathematical risk analyst can do the job better? All these "experts" are always going to pop up at times like these, but that doesnt mean they're "experts"!!

I apply the same reasoning to the COVID-19 pandemic as I do to the Climate Change debate: that if genuine climate scientists are (as I believe to be the case) the best source of advice on that subject, the same must be true of medicine... I therefore ask myself the same old question: Were I to suspect that I was dangerously ill, who would I consult...a climate scientist or a medic...?

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

I'm now starting to see mass amounts of folk staying at homes, and public transport taking a hit, its eerily quite round here, more so than normal.. Its like the worse kind of disaster film almost!! It seems the public and other authorities are taking further steps beyond the current Government ones.. And here is a picture from one of the tabloids showing how far some folk will go to protect therselves. 

26010862-8116133-A_man_in_Manchester_city_centre_appears_to_wear_protective_gear_-a-26_1584350356939.jpg

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
1 minute ago, emax said:

So why have behavioural and medical scientists, if a mathematical risk analyst can do the job better? All these "experts" are always going to pop up at times like these, but that doesnt mean they're "experts"!!

But he is an expert, and meets all the criteria for expertise. Low likelihood but high impact events in a complex system is exactly what NNT specialises in, and what is happening now. That's not to say he is better than other particular experts in their respective field, but to dismiss him as a philosopher is, as I said, incredibly disingenuous.

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1 minute ago, General Cluster said:

I apply the same reasoning to the COVID-19 pandemic as I do to the Climate Change debate: that if genuine climate scientists are (as I believe to be the case) the best source of advice on that subject, the same must be true of medicine... I therefore ask myself the same old question: Were I to suspect that I was dangerously ill, who would I consult...a climate scientist or a medic...?

Exactly. Now I'm in no way saying that our experts are right per se, but they are at least experts. All this talk of "experts" signing petitions, when actually the majority of them are not experts, but simply scientists or doctors......but a scientist is not an expert by default lol

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3 minutes ago, BornFromTheVoid said:

But he is an expert, and meets all the criteria for expertise. Low likelihood but high impact events in a complex system is exactly what NNT specialises in, and what is happening now. That's not to say he is better than other particular experts in their respective field, but to dismiss him as a philosopher is, as I said, incredibly disingenuous.

He was being classed as being, in some way, an expert on behavioural science, which he is not. His usual field of work seems just as useful as philosophy to me, just by the way he works. Despite the fact he's up there with some of the more "extreme" people out there, I still dont see how he can be classed as an expert compared to behavioural science, but you have your agenda, so thats fine, we'll leave it there.

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
8 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

I'm now starting to see mass amounts of folk staying at homes, and public transport taking a hit, its eerily quite round here, more so than normal.. Its like the worse kind of disaster film almost!! It seems the public and other authorities are taking further steps beyond the current Government ones.. And here is a picture from one of the tabloids showing how far some folk will go to protect therselves. 

26010862-8116133-A_man_in_Manchester_city_centre_appears_to_wear_protective_gear_-a-26_1584350356939.jpg

Phone in hand with no protective gloves, well thought out that!

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  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth

Just read Nadine Dorrie's account of having COVID-19. Glad that she seems to be recovering, but it bothers me that her case was a "surprise" to the reporting doctor and indeed to her (considering her position), believing it to be one of the first examples of transmission in the UK without links to another case? Surely it was obvious that community transmission must have been taking place for some time, but that it was not easily going to be picked up "officially" because the criteria for testing at the time didn't account for transmissions without a link to a known case? 

 

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
1 minute ago, DAVID SNOW said:

Phone in hand with no protective gloves, well thought out that!

Never noticed that David, I was to busy looking at that bloke in the background laughing. I noticed quite some time back that places selling the dust suites had sold out... Army and navy stores are gonna be having a surge now. 

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  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Winter Snow, extreme weather, mainly sunny mild summers though.
  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
Just now, DAVID SNOW said:

Phone in hand with no protective gloves, well thought out that!

I guess he'll likely thoroughly wash and sanitize his hands before removing the body armor and mask.☺️

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
12 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

I'm now starting to see mass amounts of folk staying at homes, and public transport taking a hit, its eerily quite round here, more so than normal.. Its like the worse kind of disaster film almost!! It seems the public and other authorities are taking further steps beyond the current Government ones.. And here is a picture from one of the tabloids showing how far some folk will go to protect therselves. 

26010862-8116133-A_man_in_Manchester_city_centre_appears_to_wear_protective_gear_-a-26_1584350356939.jpg

I wo der what he does when he gets in, if its just take them off and wash his hands, it defeats the object of using this type of protection. He needs to wash the suit first, then take it off. 

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough
14 minutes ago, emax said:

Exactly. Now I'm in no way saying that our experts are right per se, but they are at least experts. All this talk of "experts" signing petitions, when actually the majority of them are not experts, but simply scientists or doctors......but a scientist is not an expert by default lol

But considering the ones on the front line are saying this is going quicker than they were expected, that cements concerns, especially if one of the big signatures is someone who is an expert at the mathematical algorithms that are being used.

We really need to break the narrative away from what I could describe as ongoing Brexit mindset where we are believing/disbelieving based on political allegiances. The scientific community is split on this, from behaviour, biologists, chemists, you name it. We all want the government to be getting this right and thank goodness they have drawn in expertise. But we are dealing with something that will test the finest minds our country has to offer, we will need to adjust and potentially to quite severe levels very quickly. I think a lot of this is down to communication being poor and in fact two methods have kind of got mixed up together between trying to elongate the outbreak to reduce peak numbers with simply locking up those most vulnerable and letting it sweep through much more quickly.

I don’t blame Boris, he must be under a lot of pressure and frankly the last thing we need is politicians digging their heel in to one position or another. Personally I am still struggling to adjust to this new reality, think many were going full guns at Johnson about flooding just a month ago.... How times have changed.

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