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  • Location: HANDSWORTH BIRMINGHAM B21. 130MASL. 427FT.
  • Weather Preferences: WINTERS WITH HEAVY DISRUPTIVE SNOWFALL AVRAGE SPRING HOT SUMMERS.
  • Location: HANDSWORTH BIRMINGHAM B21. 130MASL. 427FT.

just wow what an interesting outputs has been for the last few days but I will hold back on my excitement I see no mention of any deep cold from Exeter nor do they mention any snow and they do look at models like the ECMWF. I wonder if we might just might get a repeat of March 2013 who knows what ever the weather guys keep safe and look after each other these are certainly dark times what a strange year this is turning out to be again keep safe everyone and follow the advice being given out by the pros. ☺️

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
3 hours ago, syed2878 said:

 I wonder if we might just might get a repeat of March 2013 who knows what ever the weather guys keep safe and look after each other these are certainly dark times what a strange year this is turning out to be again keep safe everyone and follow the advice being given out by the pros. ☺️

March 2013 had massive northerly blocking, this is why the last two weeks of March 2013 were unusually cold

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Still no decent northerly blocking there in current charts 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
15 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

March 2013 had massive northerly blocking, this is why the last two weeks of March 2013 were unusually cold

Still no decent northerly blocking there in current charts 

Hang on a minute.............

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Here comes the Dec 90 redux.

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  • Location: Herne Bay Kent
  • Location: Herne Bay Kent
2 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Hang on a minute.............

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That looks like it will form a block to the Atlantic and draw down cold.... Do I see that right,? 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
6 minutes ago, Snowfish2 said:

That looks like it will form a block to the Atlantic and draw down cold.... Do I see that right,? 

Yes.

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
7 minutes ago, Griff said:

Is that a snow maker

Yes some very heavy showers breaking out quite widely, a lot in Scotland but  even in Central England at this time of year but because of the time of year, the snow wouldn't take long to melt so ideally you want some sort of a wave to form on the boundary of airmasses and then that would give potential for a few hours of very heavy snow on the Northern flank

 

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  • Location: leicester
  • Location: leicester
7 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Yes some very heavy showers breaking out quite widely, a lot in Scotland but  even in Central England at this time of year but because of the time of year, the snow wouldn't take long to melt so ideally you want some sort of a wave to form on the boundary of airmasses and then that would give potential for a few hours of very heavy snow on the Northern flank

 

Feb how is it looking between 120 and 168 hours on gfs and ecm!!still looking good for a cold north essterly or has the high toppled too far east as usual?

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
2 minutes ago, shaky said:

Feb how is it looking between 120 and 168 hours on gfs and ecm!!still looking good for a cold north essterly or has the high toppled too far east as usual?

A big streamer setting up for you on the precipitation charts.

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  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast

“As the days grow longer the cold grows stronger” certainly true of the ECM this morning.

 

 

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  • Location: leicester
  • Location: leicester
35 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

A big streamer setting up for you on the precipitation charts.

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Just took a look at ukmo and its pushed everything south and east!!even the ecm has slightly!!as you say for me the only hope is gfs sticks to its guns!!i guess the good thing is it will be much drier!!

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  • Location: Cambridge, UK
  • Weather Preferences: Summer > Spring > Winter > Autumn :-)
  • Location: Cambridge, UK

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Yikes. That's a monumental Greenland block on the 00z ECM. If people want to see a proper height rise, then that's the chart to look at. None of this fake high malarky, this is a bona fide true Greenland high. Snow incoming! Bit of an outlier on the ensembles, but I've seen worse.

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  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Winter Snow, extreme weather, mainly sunny mild summers though.
  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
28 minutes ago, shaky said:

Just took a look at ukmo and its pushed everything south and east!!even the ecm has slightly!!as you say for me the only hope is gfs sticks to its guns!!i guess the good thing is it will be much drier!!

UKMO

 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
4 minutes ago, General Cluster said:

Yes please, Mr God!:yahoo:

 

My inner snow-freak has reawakened!:oldgood:

 

39 minutes ago, shaky said:

Just took a look at ukmo and its pushed everything south and east!!even the ecm has slightly!!as you say for me the only hope is gfs sticks to its guns!!i guess the good thing is it will be much drier!!

The ECM does redeem itself late on and does have some ensemble support.

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  • Location: leicester
  • Location: leicester
21 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

 

The ECM does redeem itself late on and does have some ensemble support.

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What does seem interesting is the ecm seems an outlier in terms of pressure days 7 to 9!so we could have that more easterly flow back on the 12zs!!

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  • Location: Hertfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: SNOW AND FREEZING TEMPS
  • Location: Hertfordshire
16 minutes ago, shaky said:

What does seem interesting is the ecm seems an outlier in terms of pressure days 7 to 9!so we could have that more easterly flow back on the 12zs!!

The mean is colder than the op for that time frame too

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  • Location: leicester
  • Location: leicester
1 minute ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Will this bring Mr Murr back.

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Brilliant for a washer streamer as well i think!!very cold at 126 hours!whats the 850 temps looking like mate!!looks better than ukmo at the same time thats for sure!

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
1 minute ago, shaky said:

Brilliant for a washer streamer as well i think!!very cold at 126 hours!whats the 850 temps looking like mate!!looks better than ukmo at the same time thats for sure!

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  • Location: leicester
  • Location: leicester
3 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

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Such a beauty to look at!!its a plume of cold air travelling around the high from scandi and a direct hit for us!looking for upgrades on 12z!!

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
Just now, shaky said:

Such a beauty to look at!!its a plume of cold air travelling around the high from scandi and a direct hit for us!looking for upgrades on 12z!!

Would prefer lower heights tbh.

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  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Winter Snow, extreme weather, mainly sunny mild summers though.
  • Location: Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex

Gfs 06z 

8 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Will this bring Mr Murr back.

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Certainly an upgrade for this cold plunge on the 06z, I wonder if UKMO and ECM will come back on board later on?

-12c uppers clipping East Anglia!:shok:

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Nothing marginal there.

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