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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
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    11 minutes ago, D.V.R said:

    When I was growing up we had bidet no toilet rolls.. I have no problem with having to wash my a**e off in the shower if I have to and I've explained that to my missus and children they'll probably have to do the same. ?

    Line of last resort here too!

    At least folk will "Wash their Hands" after if forced to resort to such?

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    Can I just say huge credit to all those in here who have talked so openly and bravely  about issues that often don’t get discussed in these types of forums . And also to thank all the members who

    I do not post in this thread for two reasons. 1, I don’t know enough about the subject so my comments would be worthless 2 The ban on the political dimension means that it cannot be discusse

    Okay, there appears to be a couple of ideas circulating on the forum which people may be getting carried away with? I understand why people are running with them, because it creates the idea that

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  • Location: Darlington
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    Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday

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    Just now, pip22 said:

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    BREAKING - Italy reports 2,313 new #COVID19 cases and 196 new deaths. Total now 12,462 coronavirus infections, 827 dead. New daily "records" for both new infections and deaths.

    OMG that’s absolutely horrific . 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
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    1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:

    So, what exactly are "mild symptoms"? Genuine Q.

    Does the term cover all bases, so to speak, of mild symptoms?

    Mild - will even those with mild symptoms still get a dry cough? 

    Will they still get a fever?

    Runny nose?

    Anyone truthfully know?

    I don't know, but do want to. I'm hoping it's not just a head ache. Mind you just stopped taking codeine after my opp so could be that. 

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  • Location: Bedfordshire 33m above mean sea level
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    58 minutes ago, Rush2112 said:

    Now I get why loo roll has flown off shelves.

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    30 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

    Couldn't even get any soap in Lidl last week!

    Aren’t you suppose to use olive oil and scrape it off like in the Roman baths? Thinking of that Italy might not be a too good example at the moment 

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    6 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

    Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday

    That's one person dying roughly every 7mins in the last 24 hours in Italy just from this alone ? 

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
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    Still no update from the French government as to confirmed cases .

    Very unusual they normally produce two a day .

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  • Location: Herts
  • Location: Herts

    Up to 18 cases here in Herts now, the highest in England outside of London. Not too surprising given our proximity to the capital and the commuter belt, along with how many local schools went to Italy in half-term. 

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    Just now, nick sussex said:

    Still no update from the French government as to confirmed cases .

    Very unusual they normally produce two a day .

    Isn't Macron addressing the nation at 8pm?

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    I keep getting such lies popping up on my facebook feed regarding Corona . Latest...

     

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    Just now, nick sussex said:

    Still no update from the French government as to confirmed cases .

    Very unusual they normally produce two a day .

    Isn't the president speaking tonight? Maybe going to announce something big and they're holding off?

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    Just now, Summer Sun said:

    Isn't the president speaking tonight? Maybe going to announce something big and they're holding off?

    8pm and is expected to announce a border closure with Spain and Italy amongst other lockdown information

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
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    Just now, Paul Faulkner said:

    Isn't Macron addressing the nation at 8pm?

    I thought that was tomorrow night .

    They normally produce two updates a day , one in the afternoon and one later in the evening .

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
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    20 minutes ago, Tamara said:

    Some points and suggestions coming from various angles related to COVID 19 :

     It is a good idea to keep in mind focus on lung fibrosis - which is a key focal point of attack from this virus once it invades the human cell and propagates through the respiratory tract. 

    Lung fibrosis occurs for a variety of different reasons - and especially with greater age. However, within the context of COVID, it refers to scarring of tissue due to the inflammatory action of the virus on that tissue as it attacks it - and which in turn leads to the symptoms of cough and shortness of breath allied with the rise in temperature as body immunity response to the virus attack.

    It is obvious that the existing condition of the lungs, prior to attack from the virus, will be a major factor in determining potential extent of damage the virus further imposes on the lungs - and in turn the potential further increased severity of symptoms. Of course other underlying factors, as outlined in the professional health expert guidance come into play from one individual to another - but travel to the lungs, and the effects therein, is clearly a vital process for priority monitoring. 

    A very quick, and basic test of ones own lung condition can be very easily accomplished by anyone of us at any suitable time :

    Choosing a well ventilated place, and preferably a step outside into the fresh air in isolation of others - take a full deep inhalation of air and fill the lungs as much as possible to capacity. Hold the air there, as tight as can be managed, for a good 10 seconds before exhaling out once more. If its possible to fill the lungs to full capacity, and experience no discomfort or pain in doing so  (but most especially without involuntary coughing or spluttering during this time that aborts the exercise), then this is a reasonable provisional indicator that pre-existing fibrosis, from other causes and agents, is not present.

    There is little doubt in my mind that the potential severity of case reactions pivots around general lung condition at the time of infection (and in tandem with other factors that might undermine personal immunity and weakening organs within the body that especially includes the lungs). A lot of the worst and most alarming cases seen in the worst affected countries centre around this alarming and very distressing oxygen starvation issue - then compounded by not enough ventilation equipment and related resources to support those with least capacity. It is the stealth process of oxygen starvation that in turn impacts the other organs within the body and makes the patient condition even more critical.

    The resources of national NHS (and other international country major health organisations) is out of our individual control...and much could be said about that as a related subject!. But oxygenating the bloodstream and organs on the larger scale in terms of general moderate exercise is a good free of cost measure to choose to take at any time, and whilst it will not prevent potential infection from COVID, it will at least help assist the body combatting the COVID threat.

    Drinking of fluids is very important. It is one that I need to keep reminding myself to do more than I do - its too easy to forget to do it and/or or not consciously make time to stop and do it. Flushing the body helps detox the main organs which as discussed can come under pressure during virus attack. Of course this is  very much in tandem with the imperative need for hand washing prevention to minimise the risk of ingestion of virus and pathogen in the first place.

    A balanced diet assists the immune system and blood count - especially one low in refined sugar carbohydrates and 'bad cholesterol' saturated fats. This is much better than relying on supplements (and which will make next to no difference in my opinion in context of COVID).  It is additionally a very simple way to lose some unwanted weight over time and 'drop a size or two' - steadily and safely. Also it is a diet that makes it possible to still eat lots of delicious food and one I am very glad I embarked on a while back and to a better degree than I used to !

    Next the subject of testing vs case increase.   It is wholly inevitable that very sizeable increases in active cases are going to happen in the days and weeks ahead. My own view is that ongoing figures almost certainly cannot realistically account for a very significant number of case infections going under the radar. Neither, rightly or wrongly, can achievable time vs resources make this possible and so it is unrealistic to expect officials and administration, anywhere, to be able to succeed in this respect.. 

    Therefore anticipation and expectation management of all stats updates on COVID is better paced accordingly for mental sanity purposes with all this in mind. On that basis better to not be overly dismayed or overreactive to sudden jumps when they happen, as much as not feel any false sense of security due to any lower than expected individual update(s). Not relevant just for ones own country of nationality but also other countries that are leading the biggest increases at this time. Rather like monitoring the computer models in weather patterns, it makes sense  to measure trends over days (and indeed ultimately weeks) than blanket frenzied analysis and then instant reaction and conclusions drawn from each and every update - especially wrt social media tweets which require very careful pruning....

    Its going to be a very long process over many weeks to see how this virus play out and we simply have to ride out each day at a time which is going to be difficult., and when reassurances are naturally always a top priority of instinctive human need..   Most everyone is very concerned over the spread of this virus and its impacts, but much better to keep the official advice in mind when looking at these figures and what they themselves expect to see emerge.

    I am not a fan by any means of this government in terms of its, um shall we say, wider remits and objectives, but there is some reassurance that each conference update on COVID derives very much from the expert medical view of those either side of the PM at these briefings - and a sign that for this serious matter at least for once, expert opinion is being heeded when decisions are made and are based on that advice and not by the much more familiarly witnessed damaging political ideology that result in facts, truth and perspective going  right out of the window....

     

     

    Thanks for the detail and nice to see you posting again @Tamara! ?

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    Reuters: The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level corona virus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion.

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    Just now, Paul Faulkner said:

    Reuters: The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level corona virus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion.

    Nothing surprises me anymore ! 

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    16 minutes ago, BarnetBlizzard said:

    Who else here is surprised that Swine Flu killed nearly 600,000 people worldwide? 

    I kind of assumed that it didn't kill many people as the panic seemed to end as quickly as it started. 

    That is high, the offical total according to WHO's estimate was 280,000 roughly, but its hard to tell I admit.

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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
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    6 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    I thought that was tomorrow night .

    They normally produce two updates a day , one in the afternoon and one later in the evening .

    He's addressing the nation tonight at 20h00. Strange that there's been no update though - maybe he'll announce it, among other things...

    Here's the link to santépublique if it's useful:

    WWW.SANTEPUBLIQUEFRANCE.FR

    Points de situation, questions-réponses, interviews d'experts... tout savoir sur l’infection au nouveau coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), COVID-19, en France et dans le Monde

     

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  • Location: Darlington
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    31 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

    Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday

    Some suggestions that data was missing from yesterday, and they've included it in today's update with new cases around the 1,700 mark for the 24hr update to today and the rest for what should have gone in yesterday. Yesterday's update was below 1000 new cases.

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