Novel Coronavirus – China

[Summer Sun]

Breaking: Austria closes its border to Italy

[feb1991blizzard]

1 minute ago, Summer Sun said:

Breaking: Austria closes its border to Italy

Again - good but should have ben done a while ago.

[Guest Delete Me]

• MARCH 10TH STATS
• 1. San Marino: 15.269 cases per 10,000 people (population less than 100k) (NEW)
• 2. Iceland: 17.844 cases per 100,000 people (same)
• 3. Italy: 15.165 cases per 100,000 people (same)
• 4. South Korea: 14.596 cases per 100,000 people (-3)
• 5. Iran: 8.823 cases per 100,000 people (-1)
• 6. Bahrain: 7.300 cases per 100,000 people (same)
• 7. China: 5.826 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 8. Switzerland: 4.364 cases per 100,000 people (-1)
• 9. Norway: 4.237 cases per 100,000 people (-1)
• 10. Singapore: 2.851 cases per 100,000 people (-1)
• 11. Spain: 2.638 cases per 100,000 people (+6)
• 12. Sweden: 2.579 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 13. France: 2.107 cases per 100,000 people (+1)
• 14. Belgium: 2.096 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 15. Denmark: 2.016 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)
• 16. Netherlands: 1.868 cases per 100,000 people (+2)
• 17. Kuwait: 1.571 cases per 100,000 people (-6)
• 18. Hong Kong: 1.569 cases per 100,000 people (-5)
• 19. Austria: 1.484 cases per 100,000 people (-4)
• 20. Germany: 1.478 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 21. Japan: 0.947 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 22. Greece: 0.782 cases per 100,000 people (-2)
• 23. UAE: 0.627 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)
• 24. Israel: 0.573 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)
• 25. UK: 0.480 cases per 100,000 people (-3)
• 26. Australia: 0.410 cases per 100,000 people (-5)
• 27. Malaysia: 0.370 cases per 100,000 people (-4)
• 28. USA: 0.216 cases per 100,000 people (-3)
• 29. Canada: 0.204 cases per 100,000 people (-5)
• 30. Iraq: 0.185 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)
• 31. Thailand: 0.072 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)
• 32. Egypt: 0.060 cases per 100,000 people (NEW)

[ArHu3]

35 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

So they should just let people lose their homes ! Making a bad situation even worse.

A few months of suspension I don’t think will sink Italian banks and I’m sure the government thought of this before putting in this measure .

The Italian banks simply don't have any reserves and rely on a constant flow of new cash when that dries up people will find out there savings are really just gone. 

 

One " positive" note, Italy doesn't have pension reserves (unlike eg. Here in the Netherlands where you safe during your productive years )either and relies on the young to sustain the pensions of an ever aging population 

[Summer Sun]

Breaking: Austria have suspended all flights and trains from and to Italy with immediate effect

[swebby]

25 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

China's latest update shows just 19 new cases all but 2 are in Wuhan

The mainland has had 80,754 confirmed cases and 3,136 deaths since the outbreak began at the end of last year

If that new case number is reliable, then that is a remarkable level given where they were a month ago. Far as i am concerned, containment of something this contagious should be near impossible, but China, could be coming close, astonishing if so.

[kold weather]

Switzerland now just under 500 cases. Do they update once or twice a day?

Sweeby, what Korea and china have done is monumental, it really does show the super tight measurements required can bring it under control, something perhaps European countries need to take a close look at. Maybe we might just have to stomach such measures for a month or two to drive it down in totality.

Edited March 10, 2020 by kold weather

[fujita5]

3 minutes ago, swebby said:

If that new case number is reliable, then that is a remarkable level given where they were a month ago. Far as i am concerned, containment of something this contagious should be near impossible, but China, could be coming close, astonishing if so.

Sadly this is down to the people being used to being 'owned' by the state and doing what they're told.  That level of containment would be difficult, if not impossible in the UK and many 'free' countries

[Gray-Wolf]

As I posted up thread 'safe distance' is not what W.H.O./C.M.O. are advising but at least TWICE that distance?

 

Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official ‘safe distance’, study says

WWW.SCMP.COM

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Health authorities advise people to stay 1-2 metres apart, but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 4.5 metres away.

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by Gray-Wolf

[summer blizzard]

49 minutes ago, weirpig said:

Ohh strange moment when i saw who posted that.   anyway  that really as peaked my interest    7 days time  we could be in lock down ourselves   

I'd not be too worried just yet. If you look at western Europe daily numbers Vs Italy for same day since case X then they are all a bit erratic to 400 but then italy, France, Germany and Spain all seemed to lose it and start jumping by hundred plus (Germany seems a little tighter) at the same rate ish.

If we can get past 500 at our current rate we should be on track to come in lower.

We also have the benefit that if Italy actually get a grip we know what needs to be done.

[nick sussex]

4 minutes ago, fujita5 said:

Sadly this is down to the people being used to being 'owned' by the state and doing what they're told.  That level of containment would be difficult, if not impossible in the UK and many 'free' countries

It’s better to get the pubic onside by instilling a sense of collective spirit and we’re in this together.

In China they’ve also started a programme where anything seen as not confirming and being classed as a trouble maker means you lose points . A trouble maker being anyone who criticizes the government .

Which in turn means , less access to welfare , less housing and less chance of visas to leave the country .

They just want a nation of Borg drones !

[Guest Delete Me]

On Friday I said if we can get to Wednesday with 400 cases then we are in a good position. Barring a ridiculous jump today we are on the right track and don't necessarily have to follow the Italy trend (2 weeks behind) as long as we continue with the correct measures.

The government did the correct thing in implementing a technocracy, Boris has stepped back and is letting the team of experts come to the front and make decisions based on both evidence and experience.

[Azazel]

friend number 1 has been told to self isolate for 2 weeks.

waiting to hear about friend number 2.

[Summer Sun]

Iran have reported 54 new deaths. Total deaths in Iran now stand at 291.

Nottingham Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis has announced on social media he has had a ‘visit’ from Coronavirus.

[Summer Sun]

Breaking: Israel have ordered tourists to leave the country.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Summer Sun

[feb1991blizzard]

Just now, Summer Sun said:

Breaking: Israel have ordered tourists to leave the country within 4 days.

Good idea, as long as they are humane with it and have had contact with other governments and sort the logistics out so people are not left shafted.

[Beverley Lass]

Mortgage payments to be deferred for UK folks affected too I understand.

[kold weather]

Certainly interesting to see how different countries are handling this, you've got Israel dropping the hammer quite hard, whilst we have not done a bean on that front yet have a much higher case total.

I suppose history will show what was the correct approach.

Italy heading 100% for recession, given they had a fall in Q4, its just how deep it will go and whether it will drag the rest of Europe into recession as well (IMO, highly probable).

Edited March 10, 2020 by kold weather

[Guest Delete Me]

12 minutes ago, Azazel said:

friend number 1 has been told to self isolate for 2 weeks.

waiting to hear about friend number 2.

Will they both comply?

[Sky Full]

I hope you will all enjoy this video as much as I did - I think it will cheer us up amid all the bad news being spread around but there's a serious message in there too, with which I completely agree. 

 

[Azazel]

6 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:

Will they both comply?

I think so now. I've offered to do their shopping for them and theres a game on the xbox we've been enjoying together lately so they're looking forward to having the extra time to play that.

 

edit: Friend number 2 also asked to self isolate.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Azazel

[Summer Sun]

Iran have reported 881 new cases and a 24hr period high of 54 new deaths 

Total cases now 8,042 with 291 deaths

Edited March 10, 2020 by Summer Sun

[Spikecollie]

5 more deaths in France, the total is now 30.

[Gray-Wolf]

Seeing as all winter I'm generally 'self isolated' it will be of interest to find how others deal with such?

Obviously a 'healthy' amount of distraction from T' tinterweb is essential (seeing as I've 'done' the TV?) and keeping up muscle tone via turning every trip into multiple trips (esp. 'stairs'..... why go up just the once when you can do it 3 times?)

Plus, Joy of Joy's, it's 'Spring' so plenty of skirting/doors to clean , cobwebs to remove, under sofa's to clean etc,etc.....

But let me know how week 2 has you eh?

[Summer Sun]

Breaking: All La Liga matches are going to be played behind closed doors for at least 2-weeks