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The UK has tested over 13,500 people , population approx 65 million 

The USA has tested 472 , population approx 360 million 

The stories coming out of the USA are shocking , it’s a total shambles , people with symptoms unable to get tested , faulty test kits, not enough labs, a lack of coordination between the CDC and each state.

 

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1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:

Does anyone in here know much about the Italian northern region that's been affected quite badly; is it mainly elderly, rural i guess? 

 

Did hear on LBC that all those that have died in Italy were over 65.

Someone may be able to confirm, or not I suppose.

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A certain politician  who I shall not name has accused the UK government of sticking its head in the sand over the virus !

And applauded the USA for cutting interest rates ! 

Who needs testing and decent healthcare, just cut the interest rates and all will be fine.

 

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The situation in the USA is very worrying .

They’ve only today started proper testing in some cities which means many people will have been carrying and passing the virus on without realizing .

The chance to trace contacts will be that much harder , those that should have been quarantined won’t have been.

People have been asking to be tested and have been told the federal government won’t cover the cost .

It really is a shocking state of affairs for a supposedly rich advanced country .

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Report comments that are political. Don't add to the problem by whining about them and further cluttering up the thread. Cheers.

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3 hours ago, ThundersnowDays said:

Why haven't they told us the locations of today's cases?

Letchworth 

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36 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

The situation in the USA is very worrying .

They’ve only today started proper testing in some cities which means many people will have been carrying and passing the virus on without realizing .

The chance to trace contacts will be that much harder , those that should have been quarantined won’t have been.

People have been asking to be tested and have been told the federal government won’t cover the cost .

It really is a shocking state of affairs for a supposedly rich advanced country .

To be honest it really isn’t a surprise. US healthcare provision has always been pretty dire, whoever is in charge at a specific time.

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Does anyone have the figures for having and surviving in terms of age groups? 

Listen its not the best news, but surely so long as you have a good immune system and dont have a serious underlying condition like heart/diabetes etc, I'd take the advice not to panic. Like I said yesterday, as my Mum has a lung condition which nearly killed her 2 years ago, I'm more concerned for my parents. But if I can plan and sort an idea with them in isolation if it hits hard, that's not panic, that's common sense!

As for not flying etc.....well who knows. But keep calm and carry on doesn't seem a bad way of going about things- after all stress will make.your immune system weak and more suspectable ;)

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33 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

Did hear on LBC that all those that have died in Italy were over 65.

Someone may be able to confirm, or not I suppose.

Not exactly what you’re after, but a good piece of statistical analysis on age groups etc 

https://blog.sprucehealth.com/coronavirus-whos-going-to-die/

@philglossop possibly what you’re looking for..?

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42 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Does anyone in here know much about the Italian northern region that's been affected quite badly; is it mainly elderly, rural i guess? 

 

Another thing I’ve been wondering, are most of the Italian cases still predominantly coming from the same region which was quarantined or has it spread to the rest of Italy yet in significant numbers?

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1 hour ago, Mattwolves said:

Could it be possible that it peaks close to summer, before dying away, and perhaps emerging come next Winter!  I feel Feb with all the appropriate protocol in place.. Ie.. Travel restrictions and correct hygiene we can keep this from becoming devastating!! Yes it may well become very serious, but I'm far from convinced it will become known as the most notorious virus that ever occurred to the human race!! Also consider that we may well have a vaccination programme in place Inside the next 12 months.. I just hope and prey that we can keep it in check prior to this. 

Certainly the second wave of Spanish flu was the serious one. Hopefully in this case something similar will not happen.

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4 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

First death reported in Spain. 

The patient died in Valencia on February 13th further testing has confirmed it was of coronavirus.

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2 minutes ago, philglossop said:

Excellent piece Beanz. Thanks mate!

Well I can’t take credit for it, but yes I thought it was quite interesting.  Another article I found interesting was this piece analysing the characteristics of the Wuhan outbreak.  

I find medical professionals are far more balanced in their reporting of the facts than news agencies 

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"It’s all about speed": the most important lessons from China’s Covid-19 response.

 

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Summery of a meeting for updates and measures being put into place for British Overseas Territory of the Turks and Caicos Islands.

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His Excellency the Governor, Nigel Dakin, and the Hon. Premier, co-chaired a meeting of the TCI NSC on 2 March 2020, at the Governor’s Office, Providenciales.

 

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1 minute ago, Beanz said:

Well I can’t take credit for it, but yes I thought it was quite interesting.  Another article I found interesting was this piece analysing the characteristics of the Wuhan outbreak.  

I find medical professionals are far more balanced in their reporting of the facts than news agencies 

GettyImages_1204248113.jpg
WWW.VOX.COM

"It’s all about speed": the most important lessons from China’s Covid-19 response.

 

Agree. Having had pneumonia about 20 years ago and being ventilated at that time in ICU, the medical care even then was 2nd to none. Like a lot of things media hype does no good but cold analysis like the above is more reassuring. Plus you can survive pneumonia as I proved. 

Mind you, i guess it wouldn't be a bad time to stop smoking! 

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Just been on Sky News -

A professor from the US, a top person from a health organisation in US (sorry didnt get the guy's name).

- shutdowns basically impossible in Western democracies; China can do it and did it, because it is China.

- large numbers showing in South Korea, Japan and Italy because increased urgency of testing is showing up in the stats

- areas like London, New York, for example are probably right now, experiencing 'silent' transmission i.e. not being picked up

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24 minutes ago, bobbarley said:

Another thing I’ve been wondering, are most of the Italian cases still predominantly coming from the same region which was quarantined or has it spread to the rest of Italy yet in significant numbers?

This was posted on Twitter half an hour ago, showing Italian cases by region - it's definitely more widespread than just the northern regions - but you can see how significant the outbreak is in the top three northern regions. 

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It’s interesting how China, South Korea and hopefully Italy have managed to keep the outbreaks fairly well confined to a certain geographical area.

It provides hope that with the right measures it might be contained. Hence why WHO haven’t declared a pandemic 

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28 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

The patient died in Valencia on February 13th further testing has confirmed it was of coronavirus.

This seems significant to me, would mean that the virus was well established in Europe longer than assumed?

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7 hours ago, swebby said:

Extrapolate that to the cost of occupying an ICU bed with assisted breathing...... 

The US system of health care provision is truly bonkers, and if they have an unconstrained epidemic, it may convince the US that centrally funded healthcare works better.

The US system is just plain wrong, but our NHS isnt for free, unless it's just me paying for it out of my wage every month? 

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Now a total of 9 deaths in Washington State!!

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