Novel Coronavirus – China

[kold weather]

6 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

I expect France will be quarantined by next week  and I would fully support the decision .

It’s out of control now here sadly and I really can’t see any other option .

This is so painful from our government herei n the UK, how many different cases do we have to see where things progress to a certain point and then action is taken. Why don't we try and get ahead of the curve. The economy is stuffed regardless of what we do now based on a fair chunk of the G20 countries now being under the coronavirus fully.

I'm struggling to understand why we aren't at least banning indoor events over a certain size, at least do SOMETHING!!

[Cheshire Freeze]

Just now, kold weather said:

This is so painful from our government herei n the UK, how many different cases do we have to see where things progress to a certain point and then action is taken. Why don't we try and get ahead of the curve. The economy is stuffed regardless of what we do now based on a fair chunk of the G20 countries now being under the coronavirus fully.

I'm struggling to understand why we aren't at least banning indoor events over a certain size, at least do SOMETHING!!

We're walking straight into a severe national emergency and a lot of people can see it coming. Like a slow motion car crash that you have zero control over.

[Summer Sun]

 

[kold weather]

5 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

Even with a death rate of 2.5% we'd see the same 700,000 figure with a 40% infection rate.

I'd be surprised if we were to go anywhere near that figure, but given the Spanish Flu ended up with 200,000 dead with a smaller population, its far from impossible we end up in a similar position.

1000 deaths is clearly lowballing it if things do kick off, I mean Italy are pretty much there already!

[nick sussex]

Over 100 cases in France now directly linked to that religious festival in Alsace  . 23 new ones today in Agen .

That was a gathering of around 2000. 

 

[cheeky_monkey]

4 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

Even with a death rate of 2.5% we'd see the same 700,000 figure with a 40% infection rate.

that's alot of assumptions..take China 80,000 cases thus far and new cases in steady decline that's an infection rate of so far of 0.00006%

[Cheshire Freeze]

Just now, cheeky_monkey said:

that's alot of assumptions..take China 80,000 cases thus far and new cases in steady decline that's an infection rate of so far of 0.00006%

80,000 official cases...

Plus they have only been able to contain the spread by pretty much confining people to their houses. Can you see that happening here? There will still be complete idiots wandering out to the shop coughing their lungs out.

[kold weather]

1 minute ago, Summer Sun said:

 

By which time we will be in the 1000s of cases for sure (even just assuming a linear increase with similar amounts of cases to now each day!)

Take a look at Spain, this time last week, 228 cases, so they've increased roughly 10x!!!

I've broadly supported the government upto now, but its starting to smack a little of being too casual and lax about it now. They will just like Italy and Spain, shut the barn door whilst the horse is half a mile up the field!

[Cheshire Freeze]

Just now, kold weather said:

By which time we will be in the 1000s of cases for sure (even just assuming a linear increase with similar amounts of cases to now each day!)

Take a look at Spain, this time last week, 228 cases, so they've increased roughly 10x!!!

I've broadly supported the government upto now, but its starting to smack a little of being too casual and lax about it now. They will just like Italy and Spain, shut the barn door whilst the horse is half a mile up the field!

I don't understand why it takes days and days to get anything done. 

[kold weather]

2 minutes ago, cheeky_monkey said:

that's alot of assumptions..take China 80,000 cases thus far and new cases in steady decline that's an infection rate of so far of 0.00006%

We are definitely not China though, unfortunately for us, Italy is a far better comparison in terms of the actions that are being taken. It can be jumped upon, but requires either huge social shutdown, or an utterly monstrous testing program on literally anyone at risk. (100,000s tests)

We have done neither of those, and therefore will follow the rest f Europe down the toilet in due course.

[nick sussex]

Picture the optics . WHO say pandemic and a quarter of a million people are gathering in Cheltenham .

Many will be half cut so will forget about the virus and taking any precautions  and just have a jolly old time ! 

 

[Coopsy]

We had a fire drill at work today. 4000 people being forced down  stairwells into confined spaces and then all at a meeting point shoulder to shoulder. Then all back into the office 20 to a lift. What idiot thought that was a good idea given the current environment. 

[Kiwi]

 

5 minutes ago, kold weather said:

This is so painful from our government herei n the UK, how many different cases do we have to see where things progress to a certain point and then action is taken. Why don't we try and get ahead of the curve. The economy is stuffed regardless of what we do now based on a fair chunk of the G20 countries now being under the coronavirus fully.

I'm struggling to understand why we aren't at least banning indoor events over a certain size, at least do SOMETHING!!

 

Yes, the UK response isn't overly reassuring!!.....

 

[Summer Sun]

Deputy CMO thinks we might see number rise in the next 2 weeks with the peak in a few months

Edited March 11, 2020 by Summer Sun

[Summer Sun]

Some of the main updates today

• Italy: 2,313 new cases -196 new deaths
• Iran: 958 new cases - 63 new deaths
• Spain: 527 new cases - 18 new deaths
• France: 497 new cases - 15 new deaths
• Germany: 343 new cases - 1 new death
• UK: 83 new cases - 2 new deaths

[cyclonic happiness]

Just heard from a local newspaper that there has been a death from Coronavirus at the George Eliot Hospital in Nuneaton

3 miles from this spot!

[cyclonic happiness]

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It brings the total number of deaths in the UK to eight

 

[nick sussex]

All visits to Ephad care homes in France are now banned.

Clearly these are high risk adults and after seeing the disaster in Washington state a very sensible move .

Edited March 11, 2020 by nick sussex

[Methuselah]

5 minutes ago, Coopsy said:

We had a fire drill at work today. 4000 people being forced down  stairwells into confined spaces and then all at a meeting point shoulder to shoulder. Then all back into the office 20 to a lift. What idiot thought that was a good idea given the current environment. 

As they say:   

[feb1991blizzard]

14 minutes ago, CreweCold said:

We're walking straight into a severe national emergency and a lot of people can see it coming. Like a slow motion car crash that you have zero control over.

Yes Aaron - I told em - told everyone in January it was going to happen -  if unqualified people with no knowledge at all about the spread of viruses apart from the blatantly obvious stuff about personal hygiene can see it why cannot they. Only someone with the intellect level of a gnat would have let this happen.

Edited March 11, 2020 by feb1991blizzard

[The PIT]

Now confirmed as a pandemic by WHO

[Snipper]

21 minutes ago, Robbie Garrett said:

Yes, but are all of them ready to take over the streets.   The disorder will be higher than 2011 riots, and what do the Army do with them?

Sorry they haven’t told me. 

[Cheshire Freeze]

1 minute ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Yes Aaron - I told em - told everyone in January it was going to happen -  if unqualified people with no knowledge at all about the spread of viruses apart from the blatantly obvious stuff about personal hygiene. Only someone with the intellect level of a gnat would have let this happen.

The frustrating thing is, we had all the opportunity to pull up the drawbridge and watch the turmoil from afar. Yes we would have suffered economically but we would have had health on our side and recovered a lot quicker than elsewhere. Now we're going to be part of the turmoil.

[Stabilo19]

14 minutes ago, cheeky_monkey said:

that's alot of assumptions..take China 80,000 cases thus far and new cases in steady decline that's an infection rate of so far of 0.00006%

But China implicated extreme containment measures.

67,743 of those 80,000 cases were just in Wuhan, so that's an actual infection rate of 0.76%.

[feb1991blizzard]

10 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

Picture the optics . WHO say pandemic and a quarter of a million people are gathering in Cheltenham .

Many will be half cut so will forget about the virus and taking any precautions  and just have a jolly old time ! 

 

It'll backfire bigtime on them but unfortunately others - went in 05 and 06 to gold cup and the surge at the train station and close proximity was like a football match on the terraces in the 80s. your chest squeezed and felt other peoples breath all over you.