Novel Coronavirus – China

[Summer Sun]

Costa Rica has reported its first case exported from the USA.

[Robbie Garrett]

I've done a Spreadsheet on my home computer with the following data. I'll try be as accurate as possible.  

Let me know if you spot any errors.

 

[nick sussex]

1 minute ago, Donegal said:

And 19 of them crew. I would guess it's more likely they're Hospitality crew as they are in contact with more people so God knows how many have it. 

Who in their right mind would book a cruise at this point. 

And the USA is exporting cases to Canada from states that allegedly have no cases .

Did you hear the latest from dumbo , he never realized flu killed people and then proceeded to say the Coronavirus fatality rate would be the same as flu .

 

[Astral Goat Juice]

8 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Following on from my post earlier, expect most hospitals to have terrapin temporary buildings in place in next few days, to create isolation units, away from main hospital buildings. 

NHS, government, health authorities are ready for massive, major increase in next few days.

I believe you. Unfortunately I know the same information. My business deals with the NHS, specifically infection control and orders for my product are going through the roof, I've spoken to several Directors of IC and it's about to blow up.

[Bristawl Si]

3 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

Who in their right mind would book a cruise at this point. 

And the USA is exporting cases to Canada from states that allegedly have no cases .

Did you hear the latest from dumbo , he never realized flu killed people and then proceeded to say the Coronavirus fatality rate would be the same as flu .

 

All the ships in last few weeks stop at many Carib islands; different nationalities mix in the port shops and bars; 000s of Brits returning/returned home over last few weeks and in coming days. All eyes currently on Italy; only a few eyes looking to those returning from Carib cruises. Hmmm.......

[alexisj9]

22 minutes ago, Donegal said:

Pence says 21 people aboard the GrandPrincess tested positive for Coronavirus: 19 crew and 2 passengers. Of the 2,422 guests and 1,111 crew members, only of 46 were tested.

So basically only 46 and 21of those are positive, or have i misunderstood stood something? 

[Ryukai]

23 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Following on from my post earlier, expect most hospitals to have terrapin temporary buildings in place in next few days, to create isolation units, away from main hospital buildings. 

NHS, government, health authorities are ready for massive, major increase in next few days.

A Terrapin  

I believe you might mean Tarpaulin

NHS bosses are considering opening second coronavirus ward at the Royal Stoke - Stoke-on-Trent Live

WWW.STOKESENTINEL.CO.UK

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One patient is already being treated at the Hartshill complex

 

[Frost HoIIow]

16 minutes ago, Astral Goat Juice said:

I believe you. Unfortunately I know the same information. My business deals with the NHS, specifically infection control and orders for my product are going through the roof, I've spoken to several Directors of IC and it's about to blow up.

Inevitable in an overpopulated country like the UK. Lots of people per square mile means big trouble in times like this especially for England. You only have to look at the current figures which show comparatively low cases in Scotland, NI & Wales compared to England.

[Bristawl Si]

3 minutes ago, Ryukai said:

A Terrapin  

I believe you might mean Tarpaulin

NHS bosses are considering opening second coronavirus ward at the Royal Stoke - Stoke-on-Trent Live

WWW.STOKESENTINEL.CO.UK

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One patient is already being treated at the Hartshill complex

 

Nope. Terrapin building. Those of us past 50 will be well versed in terrapin temporary buildings at school.

[Guest Delete Me]

Going to post a few bits about whats going on in Iran right now because the situation is very dire.

This information comes from an Iranian Doctor..

• After Gilan and Mazandaran provinces, Qazvin has been put under a closedown. Only fuel and food trucks and vehicles from the city are allowed in. Qazvin is now official Code Red.
• Number of cases are exponentially increasing and there is sheer lack of medical and preventive supplies. No more beds available for new cases. We need field hospitals now!"
• Authorities asking the public to donate/provide masks, gloves for Gilan hospital nurses and doctors.
• 107 high profile deaths from the virus including doctors, nurses, police and political figures
• Shutdown of Qom was cancelled and the city is still open with the virus spreading at an alarming rate
• An infectious disease Specialist and member of the Flu Committee in Iran expecting 30-40% of Tehran's population to be infected with #COVID19 in the next two weeks.

There are numerous videos of the hospitals overflowing, people collapsing and general tweets in arabic that depict a really bad situation

[emax]

30 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

No i haven't got any gripe with big business at all, all business would survive because no one would be producing anything but no one would need anything if they are not doing anything!  -  Food isn't actually that expensive, of course it would severly dent the economy but so would a huge chunk of the workforce being off sick at any one time if we carried on, and where would it end if the bug was still going around in a years time, anyhow, it only takes 15 days of self isolation from everyone and the virus has gone, as long as other countries followed suit.

All businesses dont just supply the UK you know lol.

15 days self isolation is too simplistic I'm afraid. You'd want it to be a month for starters. Secondly, you'd have to ban all entry to the UK for at least a year or two (or until a vaccine or something). There's a whole list of reasons why it just wouldnt being viable, because you wouldnt want to go through all that, only for it to come back into the country again?

As for food not being that expensive? Whats the bare minimum for a single person's weekly food? Say £10 for bare minimum end of the world living? So even at a month (would need to be more, but month at best), thats £40 per person, which equates to over £2 billion just for a month. Add onto that you'd have to pay shop staff, lorry drivers, supply chain companies etc etc. There's plenty more money that'd have to coughed up/lost, so it all just isnt viable, not unless we're happy going down the pan economy wise lol.

[Summer Sun]

Latest Italy data

- 4,636 infected
- 197 deaths
- 462 in intensive care
- 4.4% fatality rate
 

[Bristawl Si]

2 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Latest Italy data

- 4,636 infected
- 197 deaths
- 462 in intensive care
- 4.4% fatality rate
 

Grim. Italy was already on the brink, economically as well. 

[Ryukai]

2 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Nope. Terrapin building. Those of us past 50 will be well versed in terrapin temporary buildings at school.

Just did a quick google search, and have never heard that term used for a portacabin before   and yes there were portacabins used as classrooms at the high school I went to, (nasty things they were, cold and leaky.)

[Bristawl Si]

2 minutes ago, Ryukai said:

Just did a quick google search, and have never heard that term used for a portacabin before   and yes there were portacabins used as classrooms at the high school I went to, (nasty things they were, cold and leaky.)

Like i said Ryukai, those of us past 50 will know the term, Terrapin, for temporary school buildings. Prob should've added earlier that many ended up becoming anything, but temporary.

Edited March 7, 2020 by Bristle boy

[Robbie Garrett]

WHO have posted their findings from a research team in China;

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

 

Routes of transmission

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COVID-19 is transmitted via droplets and fomites during close unprotected contact between an infector and infectee. Airborne spread has not been reported for COVID-19 and it is not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence; however, it can be envisaged if certain aerosol-generating procedures are conducted in health care facilities. Fecal shedding has been demonstrated from some patients, and viable virus has been identified in a limited number of case reports. However, the fecal-oral route does not appear to be a driver of COVID-19 transmission; its role and significance for COVID-19 remains to be determined. Viral shedding is discussed in the Technical Findings (Annex C).

 

One good thing is, Airborne spread has not been reported for COVID-19 and it is not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence.

[Bristawl Si]

9 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Latest Italy data

- 4,636 infected
- 197 deaths
- 462 in intensive care
- 4.4% fatality rate
 

The Italian national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81, with the majority suffering from underlying health problems. An estimated 72% of all those who have died were men.

According to government data, 4.25% of confirmed coronavirus cases have died, the highest rate in the world.

Italy has one of the world's oldest populations.

[Summer Sun]

2 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

The Italian national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81, with the majority suffering from underlying health problems. An estimated 72% of all those who have died were men.

According to government data, 4.25% of confirmed coronavirus cases have died, the highest rate in the world.

Italy has one of the world's oldest populations.

2nd highest for elderly population after Japan which is obviously explaining the relatively high death rate compared to other EU countries

[Guest Delete Me]

Covid is aerosolized what the hell are they talking about!

Some passengers on the diamond princess who were kept in their cabins caught the virus due to aerosolized transmission via the ships air supply coming through vents in each room.

There have also been cases in Hubei of non contact transmission that were documented in interviews with patients who said they had not left their apartments.

WHO are playing a dangerous game and have been since day 1.

[emax]

Is there a demographic on the age of the cases in Italy? Not just deaths, but all cases? I might of missed it, so sorry if I have

[Daniel*]

1 minute ago, Summer Sun said:

2nd highest for elderly population after Japan which is obviously explaining the relatively high death rate compared to other EU countries

That doesn’t fully explain that though the mortality rate is over twice that of Japan. Surely you would expect to see very similar? 

[emax]

3 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:

Covid is aerosolized what the hell are they talking about!

Some passengers on the diamond princess who were kept in their cabins caught the virus due to aerosolized transmission via the ships air supply coming through vents in each room.

There have also been cases in Hubei of non contact transmission that were documented in interviews with patients who said they had not left their apartments.

WHO are playing a dangerous game and have been since day 1.

Is there enough credible evidence though? I'm not saying people are lying, but quite often things can either get forgotten, or people just dont tell the whole story.

As for the WHO though, I dont see there is much choice other than to believe governments and organisations etc. If the WHO are not to be trusted, then who's to say AGW is even real? Do you see my point?

[Robbie Garrett]

5 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:

WHO are playing a dangerous game and have been since day 1.

Reckon all the numbers are wrong too? 

[feb1991blizzard]

3 minutes ago, Daniel* said:

That doesn’t fully explain that though the mortality rate is over twice that of Japan. Surely you would expect to see very similar? 

Could be because Italians love hugging and kissing, they are very intimate.

[Guest Delete Me]

Compared to Japan, Italy has a higher percentage of people with lung cancer, lung disease, heart disease, general cancers....and pretty much every other major disease / medical problem.