Novel Coronavirus – China

[Paul]

This from the WHO website:

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People can catch COVID-19 from others who have the virus. The disease can spread from person to person through small droplets from the nose or mouth which are spread when a person with COVID-19 coughs or exhales. These droplets land on objects and surfaces around the person. Other people then catch COVID-19 by touching these objects or surfaces, then touching their eyes, nose or mouth. People can also catch COVID-19 if they breathe in droplets from a person with COVID-19 who coughs out or exhales droplets. This is why it is important to stay more than 1 meter (3 feet) away from a person who is sick.

WHO is assessing ongoing research on the ways COVID-19 is spread and will continue to share updated findings.    

Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19)

WWW.WHO.INT

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WHO is continuously monitoring and responding to this outbreak. This Q&A will be updated as more is known about COVID-19, how it spreads and how it is...

 

[Gray-Wolf]

The what of this discrepancy in the period we are infectious?

From suspected infection we are told to 'Self Isolate' for 14 days but for those confirmed with the virus & declared cured there is no 'self isolation' even though we know we shed the virus once cured?

I'm beginning to think there may be an amount of 'Chocolate Fireguard' to what we are being advised and it is merely in place to avoid public panic for as long as possible? (by which time 'they' hope folk will be too scared to cause issues?)

Edited March 4, 2020 by Gray-Wolf

[Gray-Wolf]

18 minutes ago, Paul said:

This from the WHO website:

Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19)

WWW.WHO.INT

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WHO is continuously monitoring and responding to this outbreak. This Q&A will be updated as more is known about COVID-19, how it spreads and how it is...

 

I struggle with the basic Physics of that 'distance'?

We know the virus is a single strand of RNA whilst 'The Flu' is a Double Helix?

We are told the N95 respirator catches the 'Flu virus' but not the RNA of Covid-19 as it is smaller than the weave at between 20 to 50nm?

We are always taught to 'think for ourselves are we not?

Question everything?

Not just 'Blindly accept'?

I'm a Geologist by trading and so know the speeds a river needs flow at to keep certain 'clast' sizes in suspension?

The smaller they are the lower the Rivers speed needed to keep it in suspension?

is 'the air' different in its 'fluid dynamics' when it comes to keeping varying sizes of atomised particles floating in it?

My Gut tells me it's B.S. to say a particle of double the size will remain airborne as long as it's half size neighbour?  

 

[Astral Goat Juice]

Italy closes all Schools & Universities due to Coronavirus.

Italy closes all schools and universities due to coronavirus outbreak – ANSA

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The Italian government has decided to close all the schools and the universities in the country due to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters reported on M

 

[Summer Sun]

3 minutes ago, Astral Goat Juice said:

Italy closes all Schools & Universities due to Coronavirus.

Italy closes all schools and universities due to coronavirus outbreak – ANSA

WWW.FXSTREET.COM

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The Italian government has decided to close all the schools and the universities in the country due to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters reported on M

 

They should have done that ages ago. Could be a case of to little too late

[Astral Goat Juice]

New UK confirmed case.

Wythenshawe Hospital. 

I was there yesterday and last week too. 

[fujita5]

Can you imagine the chaos if all schools in the UK were closed for a month or longer? There are so many people living on the edge of poverty, if they had to stay home they wouldn't get any sick pay from work which would likely cause huge issues for those on the Universal Credit system, which is based on working hours and income.

I very much doubt the UK government would take this step, but it may become necessary.

Edited March 4, 2020 by fujita5

[Astral Goat Juice]

Just now, Donegal said:

Yes. Italy has pretty much infected all of Europe by now. Apparently the Faroe Isles have a case now. Mad

Seems to me the closure of all schools and universities and the talk of playing all Seria A behind closed doors = They have lost containment control. 

[feb1991blizzard]

1 minute ago, Astral Goat Juice said:

New UK confirmed case.

Wythenshawe Hospital. 

I was there yesterday and last week too. 

You need to get checked out then.

[Gray-Wolf]

Just been out topping up my 'Vitamin D' and giving my mushrooms a Tan at the same time.....

Do you know if you need Vit D that the mushroom's skin will absorb it if you leave it out in Sunlight so you can then take it in when you eat them? 

Zero point of taking your 'Vit C' if you do not have the Vit D needed for you to utilise it?

We all know how efficacious Vit C is with regard the colds the other Coronavirus try and give us don't we?......

 

[Astral Goat Juice]

1 minute ago, feb1991blizzard said:

You need to get checked out then.

It does say on the news update that they will be contacting all who they believe might have come into contact with the infected. I heard it was a patient in the ICU, which would be the main building - I was in a different building, but still worrying. 

[Summer Sun]

9 minutes ago, fujita5 said:

Can you imagine the chaos if all schools in the UK were closed for a month or longer? There are so many people living on the edge of poverty, if they had to stay home they wouldn't get any sick pay from work which would likely cause huge issues for those on the Universal Credit system, which is based on working hours and income.

I very much doubt the UK government would take this step, but it may become necessary.

Exam season is just around the corner as well. If they can't delay the expected peak until late spring or summer that could cause massive issues for students.

[Snipper]

1 hour ago, Gray-Wolf said:

I do not know about you but the 'mixed messages' we are receiving it makes trying to stay clear of the virus doubly difficult?

As noted above with the viruses longevity on hard surfaces we are also seeing number of bits of 'advice' on how far the spread of the virus once atomised?

Our Govt. advice is the same as for Flu (a physically 'larger' beastie?) that it can spread up to 3 ft

The 'Wuhan whistleblower' told us double that a 6 ft? 

& I linked to the U.S. Coronavirus Specialist who tells us 9 ft?

Do we do as our govt. is doing and 'plan for the worst whilst hoping for the best'?

Nobody honestly knows?

[Summer Sun]

Researchers from Imperial College London think between 50,000 and 100,000 could be infected in Italy with the vast majority seeing very mild symptoms and thus going undetected.

Italy currently have a death rate at around 3.16% mainly down to the 2nd highest population of elderly people after Japan.

 

Away from Italy. China reported its lowest number of new cases yesterday (3rd) since January as the slowdown in new cases continues.

[Snipper]

18 minutes ago, fujita5 said:

Can you imagine the chaos if all schools in the UK were closed for a month or longer? There are so many people living on the edge of poverty, if they had to stay home they wouldn't get any sick pay from work which would likely cause huge issues for those on the Universal Credit system, which is based on working hours and income.

I very much doubt the UK government would take this step, but it may become necessary.

But the implications broadly would be the same for any country surely. 

[Bristawl Si]

9 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Exam season is just around the corner as well. If they can't delay the expected peak until late spring or summer that could cause massive issues for students.

Why close schools if, statistically, kids arent contracting it?

[Bristawl Si]

2 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Researchers from Imperial College London think between 50,000 and 100,000 could be infected in Italy with the vast majority seeing very mild symptoms and thus going undetected.

 

Which is probably why the 'worry' levels are too high.

[Summer Sun]

3 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Why close schools if, statistically, kids arent contracting it?

And. Would it really contain the virus? Unless they're ill themselves they'll still go out with friends etc.

[Astral Goat Juice]

4 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Why close schools if, statistically, kids arent contracting it?

Kids are contracting it, but none of them have died and have presented mild symptoms. The problem is, if a child gets it and has mild symptoms, one would assume it's the common cold, they then become serious spreaders, especially where they put their hands and spit/lick random things. 

[Azazel]

I genuinely worry NHS staff aren't being properly briefed on how to deal with patients.

My partner told me the other night they had received a "likely" coronavirus patient on their ward pending test results (they had just returned from Tenerife).

My immediate question was why was the patient taken up to a main hospital ward if they have suspected coronavirus and not put in the pods outside which have been purposely implemented to stop an infected patient spreading the virus to the general hospital population?

She said she didn't know and the patient was isolated within the ward....by a sheet. 

Thankfully, it turns out they didn't have coronavirus but they did have pneumonia and they were moved to ICU.

[Snowy L]

7 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Researchers from Imperial College London think between 50,000 and 100,000 could be infected in Italy with the vast majority seeing very mild symptoms and thus going undetected.

Italy currently have a death rate at around 3.16% mainly down to the 2nd highest population of elderly people after Japan.

 

Away from Italy. China reported its lowest number of new cases yesterday (3rd) since January as the slowdown in new cases continues.

Never know whether to take this as good or bad news. If Italy genuinely has 100,000 cases then the mortality rate is not even 0.1%, putting it similar to flu. On the flip side it would mean there is zero chance of controlling it and it will likely infect billions through the year.

[Snipper]

8 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

Why close schools if, statistically, kids arent contracting it?

Kids are grubby little germ collectors spreading various illnesses about the place. 

[feb1991blizzard]

10 minutes ago, Snipper said:

But the implications broadly would be the same for any country surely. 

They would be even worse for countries with absolute poverty as opposed to relative poverty.

[Astral Goat Juice]

Global Times
@globaltimesnews
Gene sequencing by Beijing Ditan Hospital found coronavirus in the cerebrospinal fluid of a 56-year-old confirmed #COVID19 patient with encephalitis, which provides evidence that COVID19 can invade patients’ nervous systems, just like SARS and MERS.

Appears that this virus can cause you to collapse after all. 

[Summer Sun]

Second case of coronavirus found at EU offices in Brussels, according to AFP.