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13 hours ago, damianslaw said:

Had a day of snow cover this winter so far, which is more than I could say at this stage in 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2018. Also more frosts than any of those years as well. So not doing relatively bad if comparing with a very poor average base state since Dec 2011, but not a patch on 2008, 2009, 2010 or 2012.

Just goes to show how some do get lucky during poor winter periods (talking about December so far, not the winter as a whole)!

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Morning all Yesterday was one of my favourite Meteorological Winter days of all time - no snowfall but -4c to start the day with a lovely sunrise, frost stayed on the ground at sea level all day,

One of the cold persuasion waiting for snow

You could apply that to gale lovers, why would you want a potentially destructive storm causing death, damage, disruption? You could apply that to thunderstorm lovers, why would you want a severe

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1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:

The met office have issued yellow warnings for heavy rain in parts of the south on Friday, Saturday and Sunday

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2019-12-18

The river Thames was so fast this morning, I’ve never seen the swans swim so fast downstream ? Can only make the river faster until any decent dry weather arrives!

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20 minutes ago, prolongedSnowLover said:

The river Thames was so fast this morning, I’ve never seen the swans swim so fast downstream ? Can only make the river faster until any decent dry weather arrives!

Streams where definitely fast flowing nearby me yesterday nearby canal was high too along with standing water on nearby fields.. 

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That's me finished  work wise for Christmas thank God. Since the end of September , it's been a  =====ing  nightmare trying to get anything done and earn a living.

A decent dry spell after Christmas would be  great, don't care if it's mild or cold , just want it bl'''dy dry.?

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On 14/12/2019 at 01:30, AderynCoch said:

You think that's bad? I'm off to Ukraine on the same date to experience some proper Eastern-European winter. The forecast temperature?

14C. Fourteen. ?

Try 16C instead! This must be record-breaking for the time of year. I was walking around in a shirt this afternoon because even just a light, unzipped hoody was making me sweat. This would be bonkers Christmas weather for the UK never mind flippin' Ukraine!

Ľviv is a very nice city though. 

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29 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Some parts of Europe got into the low 20s yesterday. The UK was once of the coldest places yesterday.

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Ties in with some of the forecasts for Europe this winter with Europe seeing even higher temp anomalies than that of the UK, low pressure dominant in central North Atlantic or nearer to the UK and High pressure over Russia and those southerlies...

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9 minutes ago, prolongedSnowLover said:

The world's gone crazy with record heat in Australia, unseasonal warmth in Europe, record rainfalls in the UK.

Crazy maybe, but perhaps not surprising with climate change.  Expect this world to get more ‘crazy’ as time goes by!

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22 minutes ago, AderynCoch said:

Try 16C instead! This must be record-breaking for the time of year. I was walking around in a shirt this afternoon because even just a light, unzipped hoody was making me sweat. This would be bonkers Christmas weather for the UK never mind flippin' Ukraine!

Ľviv is a very nice city though.

 

Temps of 13c are forecast for Prague on Friday.  It won’t feel particularly festive! ?

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38 minutes ago, Don said:

Temps of 13c are forecast for Prague on Friday.  It won’t feel particularly festive! ?

I live in Prague and it has felt like Spring this week, absolutely crazy. No sign of winter in the foreseeable, either. Heating bills are low, though 

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1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:

Some parts of Europe got into the low 20s yesterday. The UK was once of the coldest places yesterday.

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That setup in summer would mean 30C all over France, Germany, Belgium, Holland and 15C in the UK.

Saw a sign in the local co-op warning that they might not have enough of some fruit and get "she to bad weather, last time I remember seeing that was "summer" 2012

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11 minutes ago, Mike Poole said:

Oh no! It's all over again!! Personally I'd like to see the ECM take on thongs (I'll let the typo stand for comedy purposes - I meant things) before I throw in my third winter towel, I have 23 of them left, just so you know.

:oldrofl: Think that is for a completely different type of weather "model" Mike ?‍♀️

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1 hour ago, prolongedSnowLover said:

The world's gone crazy with record heat in Australia, unseasonal warmth in Europe, record rainfalls in the UK.

what about all the record cold and snow across N America?

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45 minutes ago, joggs said:

I've more towels than that and expect to use them all before February is over??

Alot of rain expected and I'm absolutely sick of it now. A break from the models for me for a few days. Can't even get a decent week with high pressure to dry off??

Some chucked all of their towels in at the end of October! ?

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My god this is getting frustrating - I'm not even concerned about cold right now, I'd just like a little dry.  Every time the models seem to show high pressure for the UK it's out in FI and disappears in the next run.  Even more frustrating given a pretty unorganized trop polar vortex.  My god if we could get some amplification of the pattern rather than this on onslaught of low pressure.  This must be 3 months of a relatively similar pattern.  Please god just a little high pressure.  Walking the dog is becoming a miserable experience.  Any kind of block - I'm way beyond caring about cold right now.  I can't see anything convincing in the models to suggest it's going to stop.  Even the strat is not giving much hope - possible late Jan warmings but that's it.     

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I'm hoping for the goodest bestest  goodest bestest goodest goodest

Rainfall totals on record ever

I want my house to be flooded on Christmas day with the Christmas Turkey floating in raw sewage 

Come on T+400 hr .. I want more rain 350mm in 6 hours please .

Gale force winds to rip off the Antique Welsh slate of my roof too why not.

Let's have a proper Christmas 

A big thanks goes out to all those responsible for climate change well done

I'm privileged and honoured to live amongst mankind. 

I'm just in my local woods with a torch 

Picking only the biggest mushrooms.

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just  been looking at  the  gfs from now to even  deep la la   land  if its right i hope its  not   the  uk could  get a seriuus  flooding  problem  over  xmas -new  year over  the amount of rain  that could  be heading  our way  at the  moment

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If anyone is taking the GFS for granted on here they may as well roll a dice on the next weather pattern... the GFS has been utter trollop. You may as well conclude that whatever it says for early January it means the opposite scenerio! On a serious note it's concerning that in this day and age we seem to be going backwards with accuracy of forecasting in certain respects, not forwards - despite the advance in computer systems. A bad show. 

Back to the here and now - pretty much everything now points to HP taking charge following Christmas (which is a good thing!) - my monies certainly on that and not a continuation of pounding LP's into January. I may lose my bet but I'll be surprised if I do. On the other hand I'd rather HP blocking in January & February than in November and December - so maybe its a good thing!!  

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2 hours ago, tinybill said:

just  been looking at  the  gfs from now to even  deep la la   land  if its right i hope its  not   the  uk could  get a seriuus  flooding  problem  over  xmas -new  year over  the amount of rain  that could  be heading  our way  at the  moment

Pay no attention to the GFS op today - it's a massive wet and unsettled outlier:

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Ensembles and other models all pointing to the opposite - anticyclonic, dry and settled weather between Xmas and new year.
 

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