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Morning all Yesterday was one of my favourite Meteorological Winter days of all time - no snowfall but -4c to start the day with a lovely sunrise, frost stayed on the ground at sea level all day,

One of the cold persuasion waiting for snow

You could apply that to gale lovers, why would you want a potentially destructive storm causing death, damage, disruption? You could apply that to thunderstorm lovers, why would you want a severe

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What a pathetic winter this still is, when the best we can hope for is maybe a few flakes and slush on the Hills here, at the best. 

A normal winter gives at least one decent snowfall to the lowlands, and it's looking unlikely many places will see that. 

Have to live over 2000ft in the Highlands to see decent snow this winter. 

This winter is going to rank among the worst ever in my lifetime, so please kindly shut the door on the way out, you utter vile winter. 

 

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34 minutes ago, SLEETY said:

Have to live over 2000ft in the Highlands to see decent snow this winter. 

 

 

Hardly not snow down to low level in the north today.

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Jo has ventured out to see the snow in her neck of the woods. Nice to see winter has arrived for some at least today ? 

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So I see some more have finally seen snow falling or had settling snow, nout here of the white stuff all winter although I got my snow falling fix back in mid November, ok it was very wet snow flakes & borderline sleet, most certainly evaporative cooling taking effect as there was hardly any wind & it turned more to snow in the heavier bursts, some of the higher areas around had settling snow, not bad for autumn, shame that early sight of snow falling didn't set the tone for the winter to come though!! Lol

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1 hour ago, mushymanrob said:

Just want to say how impressed ive been with the GFS modelling of this cold spell, after we locally have had a dumping.

The GFS for several days now alongside the FAX charts recognised that shortwave feature as having the potential to deliver a more prolonged spell of snow for the north midlands, and only Netweathers daily outlook for Derby supported it.  The BBC, Met Office, and all other online forecasts were wrong, Accuweather even predicted 10c, sunny, dry, for Derby .

So dont dismiss the GFS predicted precipitation, they got it bang on today.

Aren't you the lucky one. Sweet nothing here so it's the same as its been all. Winter. A nothing one really.... 

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An online acquaintance has reported a "white out" somewhere near Nottingham after lunch. He said there was heavy wet snow for 3/4 of an hour, dropping the temperature to 1C, and settling for a while before turning to slush recently. He said they issued a snow warning for it after it finished. Radar is just starting to show hints of snow amongst the sleet on Exmoor and Dartmoor, and even sleet in London. Keep your eyes peeled!

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19 minutes ago, Zak M said:

Well, this 'Storm Denis' looks interesting. Having looked at the models, it will may not as violent as Storm Ciara, but definitely something to watch out for!

It wants to be as violent as it likes... There has to be something of interest for us southeasterners!! 

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6 minutes ago, Snowfish2 said:

It wants to be as violent as it likes... There has to be something of interest for us southeasterners!! 

Calm down snowfish2, what do you expect in Hernia Bay, there's a reason that it has the highest concentration of homes for the elderly in the UK.?

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5 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

Spring like!! It still looks on the chilly side to me out to day 10, even the mean is still below 0c...yes it hardly severe Winter conditions, but still some opportunities to get something a tad wintry at times out to day 10.

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 westerly based stuff just doesn’t cut it most of the time unless you are on a hill somewhere. 850s will be -7c here on Wednesday. Forecast max 8c/min 3c, which is around bang on the average for the time of year. Even cold air below the norm just delivers average conditions. The UK climate is a joke.

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3 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

 westerly based stuff just doesn’t cut it most of the time unless you are on a hill somewhere. 850s will be -7c here on Wednesday. Forecast max 8c/min 3c, which is around bang on the average for the time of year. Even cold air below the norm just delivers average conditions. The UK climate is a joke.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was just pointing out it was on the cool side, rather than springlike. Yes it's a bad winter, but we are not alone in suffering it this time around. Can't see the point in even moaning about it, it is what it is! Better look next time I say. 

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8 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

 westerly based stuff just doesn’t cut it most of the time unless you are on a hill somewhere. 850s will be -7c here on Wednesday. Forecast max 8c/min 3c, which is around bang on the average for the time of year. Even cold air below the norm just delivers average conditions. The UK climate is a joke.

Is this a moan or dependent on where you live?,the NW was and still is always favored for snow esp on hills,even the SE had some snow today so that is a surprise for them,it is still early Feb and there is still plenty of time yet,hold on in there mate.

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3 minutes ago, Allseasons-si said:

Is this a moan or dependent on where you live?,the NW was and still is always favored for snow esp on hills,even the SE had some snow today so that is a surprise for them,it is still early Feb and there is still plenty of time yet,hold on in there mate.

Guess it depends what floats your boat. I live in one of the worst areas possible for snow - even the BFTE didn’t bring much here, so I’m resigned to missing out regardless. Trade off is that it’s often one the hottest places in the UK on a summers day, so it’s not all bad. A bit of wet snow flying around today so a few people may be happy with a dusting! Even the very mildest winters usually have a bit of the white stuff chucked in, as today has shown.

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40 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

Guess it depends what floats your boat. I live in one of the worst areas possible for snow - even the BFTE didn’t bring much here, so I’m resigned to missing out regardless. Trade off is that it’s often one the hottest places in the UK on a summers day, so it’s not all bad. A bit of wet snow flying around today so a few people may be happy with a dusting! Even the very mildest winters usually have a bit of the white stuff chucked in, as today has shown.

It's a good trade off though - you've got the title for the hottest temp on record now! ?

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53 minutes ago, mb018538 said:

Guess it depends what floats your boat. I live in one of the worst areas possible for snow - even the BFTE didn’t bring much here, so I’m resigned to missing out regardless. Trade off is that it’s often one the hottest places in the UK on a summers day, so it’s not all bad. A bit of wet snow flying around today so a few people may be happy with a dusting! Even the very mildest winters usually have a bit of the white stuff chucked in, as today has shown.

I guess you've not lived in Cambridge long enough. I had to cycle from Waterbeach to the British Antarctic Survey (on Madingley Rd!)in the mid 90's and that included snow cycling

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4 hours ago, snowray said:

Calm down snowfish2, what do you expect in Hernia Bay, there's a reason that it has the highest concentration of homes for the elderly in the UK.?

Get me out of here I'm Coming to live with you 

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3 days with thunder this winter so far including 2 consecutive days, Sunday and yesterday.

A couple of years in the 2010s, I had to wait until middle of the year to hear the first thunder clap. In 2015, it was 1st of July.

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8 hours ago, ASmith said:

I guess you've not lived in Cambridge long enough. I had to cycle from Waterbeach to the British Antarctic Survey (on Madingley Rd!)in the mid 90's and that included snow cycling

I’ve lived here 34 years...I was only 9/10 in the mid 90s so can’t remember a great deal from back then! Not to say we’ve never had snow - Jan 2003 always sticks out - but in more recent snow events we’ve missed out most of the time.

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GFS bang with temps so far today at 2.4c currently a covering of snow still,where on earth bbc getting 7 and 8c from this morning I don`t know.

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Although there were localised snowfalls in the Midlands and Norfolk yesterday associated with the colder air digging in at the rear of a cold front, on the whole I've been surprised by how feeble this west to north-westerly incursion is proving to be.  Even in recent years there have been colder snowier polar maritime outbreaks, notably in the winters of 2014/15 and 2017/18 and in the last week of January 2019.  I didn't expect any lying snow today in Exeter, but I thought there might be some sleet/wet snow, as happened several times in the 2014/15 winter, and a fair covering up on Dartmoor and in places like Glasgow and Belfast.

 

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