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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

So, the GFS at T+384 (the overall pattern is what matters, not the details?) has the last(?) of the PV remnants pinned near the Arctic, allowing warmer continental air to exert a greater influence:

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The FV3 appears to reach a similar (if less convincing) position; so, once this week's cack has finally become an unwanted memory, things ought to start looking up, more generally...?


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The ensembles paint their usual confused picture, with little indication of any major warm-up and a wee drop of rain:

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Much better ECM by the coming weekend and beyond, and much better temps. 

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

Whoa the Ecm 00z ensemble mean sure is looking peachy from T+168 hours!

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
2 minutes ago, Frosty. said:

Whoa the Ecm 00z ensemble mean sure is looking peachy from T+168 hours!

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Indeed Frosty; the GFS also looks good for next Monday -- my only caveat being that it look eerily similar for how this last weekend was supposed to evolve...?:shok:

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Karl just nailed it with the above post.... ECM ensembles show the marked temperature increase... Much better

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

Good to see that the 'cold air containment bulkhead' has sprung a leak down the western Atlantic - rather there than here!

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  • Location: Ludlow, Shropshire
  • Weather Preferences: thunder
  • Location: Ludlow, Shropshire

Collective *sigh of relief* can be heard all around this morning.   Much better GFS 06z

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  • Location: Keyingham, East Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish plumes, hot and sunny with thunderstorms
  • Location: Keyingham, East Yorkshire
24 minutes ago, StormChaseUK said:

Collective *sigh of relief* can be heard all around this morning.   Much better GFS 06z

Tentative steps in the right direction compared to a few days ago. The ECM mean is indicating temperatures should be back up to average,maybe above by day 9 and 10 once we cut off the northerly flow.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

Well, the FV3 does take a more circuitous route, in getting there...But we could find ourselves on the 'cusp of something special'. Again!

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

06Z GEFS ensembles:image.thumb.png.ec6c02a5469bcf76e3b0865e5a953f8f.pngimage.thumb.png.a2fbfaf4c1f09dcf9fdf9f3b21de5706.png

Operational is now very much on the warm side of the pack; mean seems to have hardly changed?

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

6z much better come the end of the weekend, and things improve next week. Beyond that, perhaps an extensive scandy high with winds coming from a warm SE continent! Things currently looking much more rosey folks! There ain't no limit to how good things could become... 

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
2 hours ago, Frosty. said:

Whoa the Ecm 00z ensemble mean sure is looking peachy from T+168 hours!

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At this time scale it needs to be very similar to the 12z Yesterday to give any grounds for it being close to what we may have.

My old hobby horse of compare like with like down to about 144h.

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The GEFS 6z mean really has lift off from around Sunday onwards, becoming warmer and anticyclonic nationwide  for quite a while!!

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

This is the pattern from the closer North Atlantic viewpoint which is a bit elusive when it comes to a possible  surface analysis on lthis morning's and last nights Anomaly. Perhaps some elucidation this evening

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

It's coming. Summer is coming!:yahoo:

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  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, cold!
  • Location: Wantage, Oxon

GEM 12z at same time, not quite the heat hit of GFS but all singing from the same hymn sheet tonight...

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

How hot can it get...in May?image.thumb.png.174c55df6b1fa0955fcdd4574970fb89.pngimage.thumb.png.cccbacef85d8afed6e33800a81f7c37d.png

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Wow the place is buzzing all of a sudden... Amazing what some high pressure can do... 12z looking fine.... Me love it long time 

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  • Location: Keyingham, East Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish plumes, hot and sunny with thunderstorms
  • Location: Keyingham, East Yorkshire

If this is to be the eventual outcome then it is some turnaround. Quite remarkable how we've gone from chilly northeasterlies to a plume in the space of 24-48 hours.

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