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On 05/08/2019 at 09:30, Weather-history said:

If I were a betting man, I would now go for a sub 200 summer. This summer is just not getting going and I see nothing in the charts that are suggesting a rocketing up of the index.

 

Manchester Summer Indices 

1954 143
1907 147
1956 155
1912 156
1924 158
2012 164
2008 168
1987 169
1946 170
1909 171
1931 173
1978 173
1980 173
1920 174
1923 174
2007 174
1927 175
1948 176
1938 177
1922 178
2011 179
1985 180
1958 184
1972 185
1916 188
1986 189
1965 189
2016 189
1910 190
1936 190
1988 191
2010 191
1966 192
1998 192
2017 192
1953 193
1963 194
1993 194
2009 194
1902 195
1915 196
1981 196
1928 197
1962 197
1964 197
2004 197
1952 198
2000 198
1930 199
1974 199
1979 199
2019 199 (up to 30th August)
1918 200
1944 200
2002 200

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Posted (edited)

Very heavy narrow band of rain this morning mounted the rainfall up for the whole summer incredibly the wettest on record stand alone,was equal with 2012 a much different summer in look to this one with it seemed like the dullest summer on record,this one much sunnier.

Edited by Snowyowl9

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What a lovely end to summer,far far better than the bank holiday weekend,fresh,usable,comfortable,basically perfect though the breeze may be a tad to strong for some.🙂

Edited by markyo

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3 hours ago, Snowyowl9 said:

Very heavy narrow band of rain this morning mounted the rainfall up for the whole summer incredibly the wettest on record stand alone,was equal with 2012 a much different summer in look to this one with it seemed like the dullest summer on record,this one much sunnier.

By contrast, it's been typical of the last year or so (let alone the summer) that your heavy rain has faded to the occasional bit of drizzle here.  We've had barely over 50% of our average rainfall for August I think, on top of a dry July.  Combined, these two months have eradicated the surplus rainfall from June.

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31C with an ice cold beer. Lovely.

Another hot day tomorrow then a cooldown on the cards. September is still essentially summer here though so not counting any chickens yet.

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Is it me or do cold fronts never seem to make it to the south east anymore, other than a thin band of light drizzle that doesn’t last 10 minutes, heavy rain in the north west but literally turns to nothing by the time it gets here.

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6 minutes ago, Freeze said:

Is it me or do cold fronts never seem to make it to the south east anymore, other than a thin band of light drizzle that doesn’t last 10 minutes, heavy rain in the north west but literally turns to nothing by the time it gets here.

Your not alone, active cold fronts pushing in from the west engaging with the hot and humid air often produced great night storms running NE, (selective memory alert lol)  also see 'decline in thunder '

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28 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

Your not alone, active cold fronts pushing in from the west engaging with the hot and humid air often produced great night storms running NE, (selective memory alert lol)  also see 'decline in thunder '

Also noticed that temps do not drop that much after them either.. here on the south coast at least, a couple cooler nights but temps still nudging 20c by day, I suppose it’s still late summer 

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Manchester Summer Indices 

1954 143
1907 147
1956 155
1912 156
1924 158
2012 164
2008 168
1987 169
1946 170
1909 171
1931 173
1978 173
1980 173
1920 174
1923 174
2007 174
1927 175
1948 176
1938 177
1922 178
2011 179
1985 180
1958 184
1972 185
1916 188
1986 189
1965 189
2016 189
1910 190
1936 190
1988 191
2010 191
1966 192
1998 192
2017 192
1953 193
1963 194
1993 194
2009 194
1902 195
1915 196
1981 196
1928 197
1962 197
1964 197
2004 197
1952 198
2000 198
1930 199
1974 199
1979 199
2019 199  <-------
1918 200
1944 200
2002 200
1951 201 

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Summer index here (1980 on):

2018: 295
1989: 287
1995: 279
2006: 278
2003: 271
1996: 265
2013: 262
1983: 261
1994: 257
1990: 251
1984: 251
2009: 245
2010: 244
1991: 241
2005: 239
1992: 238
2015: 235
1999: 235
2019: 232
1981: 230
2014: 230
2017: 229
2002: 227
2016: 224
2001: 224
2000: 221
2007: 221
2004: 220
1993: 219
1997: 219
2011: 216
2008: 213
1998: 212
1982: 210
1986: 205
1988: 204
1985: 199
1980: 194
2012: 194
1987: 174

Slightly better than average, but very mid-table.

 

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August in London was pretty decent in the end. Temperatures were 1.2c above average, with 67% of average rainfall and 98% of average sunshine.

Edited by B87

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3 hours ago, B87 said:

August in London was pretty decent in the end. Temperatures were 1.2c above average, with 67% of average rainfall and 98% of average sunshine.

It didn’t seem like that at times. I clearly remember many days with cloudy skies and some damp and rainy days.

The last week or so if August was very good in terms of heat and sunshine though. 

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Well it feels like we have switched from summer to autumn overnight.

 

Freezing cold this morning, an arctic chill to the air. Now a case of sunny intervals and blustery showers, just as forecast, and still feeling very cool for the time of year at just 13°.

Edited by East Lancs Rain

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2 hours ago, Sunny76 said:

It didn’t seem like that at times. I clearly remember many days with cloudy skies and some damp and rainy days.

The last week or so if August was very good in terms of heat and sunshine though. 

There were 9 days with rain, which is slightly above what would be expected in August. The last 10 days had the same amount of sunshine as the first 21 days.

It was only the 2nd August to record 200+ sun hours since 2005 (the other being 2016)!

This summer has reminded me of a warmer 2016, though June 2019 was infinitely superior to the total manure that was June 2016.

Edited by B87

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9 hours ago, reef said:

Summer index here (1980 on):

2018: 295
1989: 287
1995: 279
2006: 278
2003: 271
1996: 265
2013: 262
1983: 261
1994: 257
1990: 251
1984: 251
2009: 245
2010: 244
1991: 241
2005: 239
1992: 238
2015: 235
1999: 235
2019: 232
1981: 230
2014: 230
2017: 229
2002: 227
2016: 224
2001: 224
2000: 221
2007: 221
2004: 220
1993: 219
1997: 219
2011: 216
2008: 213
1998: 212
1982: 210
1986: 205
1988: 204
1985: 199
1980: 194
2012: 194
1987: 174

Slightly better than average, but very mid-table.

 

It is an interesting chart the MSI but there are a few questionable figures that are way out ,certainly in these parts even though I am outside the MSI area. I mean how on earth is 1984 listed so low when it should be second behind 1995 in fact I think there is a mistake here because it is 1995 which has the figure of 295 and not 2018. Also how did 2010 get there at 244,yes one good month the rest was cool and pants and what is 1997 doing down there with the hottest August in modern times just above 2008??,surely this chart is wrong?

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1 minute ago, hillbilly said:

It is an interesting chart the MSI but there are a few questionable figures that are way out ,certainly in these parts even though I am outside the MSI area. I mean how on earth is 1984 listed so low when it should be second behind 1995 in fact I think there is a mistake here because it is 1995 which has the figure of 295 and not 2018. Also how did 2010 get there at 244,yes one good month the rest was cool and pants and what is 1997 doing down there with the hottest August in modern times just above 2008??,surely this chart is wrong?

OOps,sorry Reef,just realised it is not the MSI after all!

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23 hours ago, Freeze said:

Is it me or do cold fronts never seem to make it to the south east anymore, other than a thin band of light drizzle that doesn’t last 10 minutes, heavy rain in the north west but literally turns to nothing by the time it gets here.

Worrying, isn't it - we'll be a desert by mid-decade at this rate!

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4 hours ago, B87 said:

There were 9 days with rain, which is slightly above what would be expected in August. The last 10 days had the same amount of sunshine as the first 21 days.

It was only the 2nd August to record 200+ sun hours since 2005 (the other being 2016)!

This summer has reminded me of a warmer 2016, though June 2019 was infinitely superior to the total manure that was June 2016.

Only slightly. June 2019 was cow dung, and August was only marginally better. July was the only good month this summer.

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1 hour ago, Sunny76 said:

Only slightly. June 2019 was cow dung, and August was only marginally better. July was the only good month this summer.

August was sunnier and drier than July, and was only slightly cooler.

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Summer stats in this location:

June

Mean Temp: 14.1C (0.0C)
Mean Max: 18.1C (0.0C)
Mean Min: 10.1C (0.0C)
Rainfall: 81.4mm (138%)
Sunshine: 154hrs (84%)

July

Mean Temp: 17.5C (+0.9C)
Mean Max: 22.2C (+1.4C)
Mean Min: 12.9C (+0.5C)
Rainfall: 50.4mm (93%)
Sunshine: 210hrs (106%)

August

Mean Temp: 17.7C (+1.2C)
Mean Max: 22.5C (+1.8C)
Mean Min: 12.9C (+0.5C)
Rainfall: 34.2mm (57%)
Sunshine: 217hrs (117%)

Overall

Mean Temp: 16.4C (+0.7C)
Mean Max: 20.9C (+1.0C)
Mean Min: 12.0C (+0.4C)
Rainfall: 166.0mm (96%)
Sunshine: 581hrs (102%)

August proved to be the best month of the summer here. The sunshine total of 217hrs was actually the highest here since August 1995. Both July and August topped 30C for the first time in 40 years of records. Apart from the last 10 days of July, nights were relatively cool, which shows in the mean minimum figures. There were a high number of rain days (50), but only 29 days had above 1mm and 5 days above 10mm. Only 9 days failed to reach 20C from 10th July - 31st August.

A decent summer overall for us.

 

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although i was back in England the last 2 weeks of August (which was lovely) Here in Edmonton it was one of the coldest summers on record and the 2nd wettest on record..never got above 30c at any point and only got above 28c twice..all three summer months were 2-3c below normal.

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2 hours ago, johnholmes said:

Well this data from UK Met, no doubt sole folk will have memories of different weather but it s the most comprehensive and detailed available I reckon?

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2019/summer-2019-statistics

i think one thing theyve overlooked or simply ignored..... yes its been wet, but the rains were heavy, with around 2/3 of the summer days being dry, meaning the rains that fell came in only 1/3 of the other days.

this is in contrast to say 2012 when around 2/3 of days were wet.

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