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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Ship ahoy, tha she blows! 

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The Gfs 12z operational gives the uk a double / triple whammy of wintry weather with snow next week, there is even more snow in low res!..more wintry than anything we saw in winter if it verifies..should I wax the sled or wait for the Ecm 12z?!:cold:

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  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
28 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

GFS lining up another arctic shot at 288hrs...you wait for months for this type of set up, and they send 2 your way in a few days... Typical.... But I'm liking it. 

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yep typical can’t get a decent wintry setup all winter then once spring arrives great looking charts appear and they verify too.Lost count the amount of times that has happened over the years.Thats what is so frustrating about our climate

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The 12z parallel is much less wintry than the operational with the -10 uppers not digging south, rather pulling away across the far NE..so, I won't be waxing the sled until / if there is cross model agreement a few days before it's due to arrive. 

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
15 minutes ago, Frosty. said:

The 12z parallel is much less wintry than the operational with the -10 uppers not digging south, rather pulling away across the far NE..so, I won't be waxing the sled until / if there is cross model agreement a few days before it's due to arrive. 

The para once again shows it can't be trusted, the 6z being a cold run, followed by the 12z being a milder run! I've noticed UKMO doesn't seem to be setting up a Nthly as well, but it still on the cold side out to day 6, icon also brings a Nthly, but perhaps not as potent! 

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
9 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

I've noticed UKMO doesn't seem to be setting up a Nthly as well

Absolutely correct, when compared to the Gfs 12z operational in the same timeframe.:oldgood:

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
2 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

That's that sorted, then?:oldgood:image.thumb.png.6df2612b030ee95aa06fa1637e0c235c.png

A bit far out for me Pete, I think we have problems with the next 5-7 days tbh. If ECM is not coming onboard this evening, then this Nthly could be dead in the water before it's started. 

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The GEFS 12z contains some absolutely stonking arctic shots next week..even more than the 6z!..I'm in love with P18

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

GFS and ECM at 120hrs, so far so good! 

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

P18 Karl... Wowzer!! Pushes the - 12c right through the uk!!! 

Edit... Some quite impressive pools of cold around the UK at day 6 on ECM

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The Ecm 12z sucks compared to the Gfs regarding next week's cold ppppotential!

-5 uppers..-2 uppers..meh

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Yep, ECM seems to have completely different ideas to GFS. Not sure what direction it wants to take. 

Edit... It even seems to have ideas on a continental feed! 

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  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
  • Weather Preferences: obviously snow!
  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
1 minute ago, Mattwolves said:

Yep, ECM seems to have completely different ideas to GFS. Not sure what direction it wants to take. 

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too far west the setup, bit like this

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

Those last few frames from the Ecm 12z would have been great in winter but not in early april..I really want to see a full on arctic blast or roll on summer!

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
Just now, Frosty. said:

Those last few frames from the Ecm 12z would have been great in winter but not in early april..I really want to see a full on arctic blast or roll on summer!

Good shout Karl, we haven't got the uppers across the central continent to even make it worthwhile! We basically like you say, need a full on Ntly... No weak ass Estly would cut it.

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  • Location: Aberporth S W Wales
  • Location: Aberporth S W Wales

Temperature anomaly for week 1 April...not that this site covered itself in glory with its maps through the winter months...

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire

Looks like another GFS tease to me!  Doubt next week will be anything to write home about.

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  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
  • Weather Preferences: obviously snow!
  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
Just now, Don said:

Looks like another GFS tease to me!  Doubt next week will be anything to write home about.

EC will probably closer, the setup is too far west, bringing rain and cool winds

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

There's good signs towards the end of the GEFS 12z with warmer and more settled potential.

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
4 minutes ago, Don said:

Expect a backtrack from GFS regarding next week over the next few runs.

Why?

Both ECM and GEM look below average temperature wise out to day 10

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
3 minutes ago, Don said:

Expect a backtrack from GFS regarding next week over the next few runs.

Pretty sure you said that daily regarding the met updates during winter...... But you know what Don??? They never did!!! But you proved to be correct anyway!!

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