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Paul
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Please ensure that the majority of your posts in this thread are model related - a theme of model discussion needs to run throughout.
Some off topic chat and reactions are ok, but please use other, more relevant threads for entirely off-topic chat (such as snow reports, met office forecasts and general chat/moans about the weather or this winter).

For more no banter and just model discussion please head to the new focused model thread - this is also a great place to post (or cross post) your longer model summaries or thoughts around the models.

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  • Location: near dalmellington E ayrshire 302m asl
  • Weather Preferences: mediterranean summer
  • Location: near dalmellington E ayrshire 302m asl

if these charts were for july we would be in heatwave still many places over the next fortnight could well see temperatures hitting 16-17c 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
14 minutes ago, frosty ground said:

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Another almost run

Yes, just a few grains of graupel for the South East in FI

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Is it gonna be a close but no cigar moment!

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  • Location: Straiton 145m asl
  • Location: Straiton 145m asl
1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:

True, but also the 'form horse' to start with

and if one likes a flutter and a clever punter plays the probabilities then saying a UK winter will likely be mild and not cold is just being sensible.

The trouble with this place is that every Winter (and with increasing frequency imho) is that members' expectations are set way too high and people follow or believe the eternal optimists and almost ignore the down-to-earth realists.

Classic example is the ever-consistent theme of Chasing the Easterlies. Reality is that a sustained Winter Easterly/NE beyond, say, 4 days is a rare beast for the UK; maybe on average a once in every 5 year occurence? (Back of fag packet calc).

A very sensible comment there! 

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

The para doesn't even get that cold pool as close as its older brother did!! Seriously disgusting output!! Always tomorrow I suspect

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  • Location: Hernia Bay
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy Snow
  • Location: Hernia Bay
1 hour ago, Mattwolves said:

II thought icon was showing a bit of promise around day 6 with - 4 uppers into the SE, but the pattern seemed to quickly flatten again, just look at them cold uppers out east, surely our luck can change at some point. 

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You wanna bet on that? Why would it when we've had crap luck so far every which way 

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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
56 minutes ago, frosty ground said:

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This might be our summer charts this year unfortunately 

That chart is the definition of a mess - a very odd one at that - to have a low that 'strong' essentially in the middle of a broken high pressure system. One for the poubelle. 

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

12z ens for London maintain the short-lived cooler snap at the start of next week maybe just getting below the 30-year average before milder air returns

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The snow row is 0 through-out

Up in Scotland and it's a similar picture short-lived cooler snap at the start of next week before milder air returns

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The snow row here gets to the dizzy heights of 1 on three days

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
20 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

12z ens for London maintain the short-lived cooler snap at the start of next week maybe just getting below the 3--year average before milder air returns

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The snow row is 0 through-out

Up in Scotland and it's a similar picture short-lived cooler snap at the start of next week before milder air returns

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The snow row here gets to the dizzy heights of 1 on three days

Looks like more of the assembles are rissing slightly slower here. In the London graph anyway. I'll be watching to see if that may continue. Not that they are in anyway cold mind.

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

Just had a peek at the models and all I can say is..dear winter, you are the weakest link..good riddance!!

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
8 minutes ago, Frosty. said:

Just had a peek at the models and all I can say is..dear winter, you are the weakest link..good riddance!!

Like flogging a dead horse.....

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
12 minutes ago, Frosty. said:

Just had a peek at the models and all I can say is..dear winter, you are the weakest link..good riddance!!

Until the 18s and we put ourselves through it again!:-o 

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
24 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

Until the 18s and we put ourselves through it again!:-o 

Think we’ve all had enough

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
26 minutes ago, Don said:

Like flogging a dead horse.....

Dead? It's not dead..it's merely resting!

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
1 minute ago, Ed Stone said:

Dead? It's not dead..it's merely resting!

If it’s resting, it’s a lazy git and needs a good kick up the *rse!

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  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Any kind of extremes. But the more snow the better.
  • Location: Sedgley 175metres above sea level

Another painful ECM, nothing seems to be moving at any decent pace. We really do need to shift this pattern, it's like mid December into Jan all over again!

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  • Location: Bath, Oxford
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and snowy winters, hot and sunny summers with thunderstorms!
  • Location: Bath, Oxford

Just wondering, what does this all mean for the weather in the Alps, worried the snow will melt at this rate by the time I go (a week).

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  • Location: near dalmellington E ayrshire 302m asl
  • Weather Preferences: mediterranean summer
  • Location: near dalmellington E ayrshire 302m asl
Just now, Don said:

Think we’ve all had enough

this slug just aint going to move knowing  our luck it wll still be there  at the end of march

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
2 minutes ago, Mattwolves said:

Another painful ECM, nothing seems to be moving at any decent pace. We really do need to shift this pattern, it's like mid December into Jan all over again!

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A zonal reset needed?

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  • Location: Oldbury, West midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy snow, Thunder storms and lightning
  • Location: Oldbury, West midlands

Well you can add my Virtual towell to the pile of broken dreams, hype and promises. What this Winter has taught us all is background signals and expert forecasts mean nothing. Nature is its own thing that dosent follow a script. So next year if it shows mild and a heatwave expect blizzards and the next Ice age lol. Hope you all have an amazing Spring, Summer, Autumn. That's all folks until next Winter and the journey starts again.

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