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Please ensure that the majority of your posts in this thread are model related - a theme of model discussion needs to run throughout.
Some off topic chat and reactions are ok, but please use other, more relevant threads for entirely off-topic chat (such as snow reports, met office forecasts and general chat/moans about the weather or this winter).

For more no banter and just model discussion please head to the new focused model thread - this is also a great place to post (or cross post) your longer model summaries or thoughts around the models.

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  • Location: Bromborough WIRRAL
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme cold, hot sunny summer's and autumn storms
  • Location: Bromborough WIRRAL
1 minute ago, Ed Stone said:

It could be very long and very hard this winter.

If it all shifted to the south it would hit just the right spot

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  • Location: Boldon, South Tyneside (Tyne & Wear) 271ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Severe Thunderstorms, Heat (Summer) & Snow in Winter
  • Location: Boldon, South Tyneside (Tyne & Wear) 271ft ASL
Just now, warrenb said:

And classic style up pops a shortwave at 240

At that range we don't have to worry just yet thankfully.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
1 minute ago, warrenb said:

And classic style up pops a shortwave at 240

That one to the sw of Greenland is a good one though !

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  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: blizzard conditions. ice days
  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire

Anyway...a tri lobe situ remains a distinctive notion..

And would with the given-plots aid our part..

As a direct split...has crucial placement issues..

Moreso in regards to deep tap into accumulated polewards cold...

Still on a comfy seat on the....rollercoaster!!

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  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, cold!
  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
20 minutes ago, Bartlett High said:

 

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Literally spat my beer out when I saw that! Top, top post!

GFS T276 has it nailed I think!

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor
33 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Better GFS with the Northerly coming in much faster compared with the 6z

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Riding up to Greenland forcing the second low back NW and into the Greenland shredder 

Another shapely vortex

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook

Different Arctic evolution this time and the PV attempts to pull itself back together and there is no arctic high at all in place by 300hrs which is a massive difference from recent runs, though there is ridging from pacfic so maybe it will reform around 360hrs.. Not bad at all, but a little contrast compared to the very similar 00z and 06z.

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  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: blizzard conditions. ice days
  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
4 minutes ago, Mike Poole said:

Literally spat my beer out when I saw that! Top, top post!

GFS T276 has it nailed I think!

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Trully BRILLIANT POST..

in bits tbh...

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  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: blizzard conditions. ice days
  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
Just now, tight isobar said:

Trully BRILLIANT POST..

in bits tbh...

@Bartlett High

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington
37 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Better GFS with the Northerly coming in much faster compared with the 6z

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Riding up to Greenland forcing the second low back NW and into the Greenland shredder 

It looks remarkably close to Washington DC

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  • Location: South Essex
  • Location: South Essex

All looks a bit meh to me. A couple of weeks of rather cold weather coming up but nothing out of the ordinary. Its the sort of pattern where for most its cold enough to snow except when stuff is falling out of the sky. Still no meaningful signal for HLB over the next couple of weeks and without that forget any deep cold. Ignore the GFS snow charts as away from high ground it is mostly just going to be cold rain. 

 

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  • Location: Brighton, East Sussex
  • Location: Brighton, East Sussex
2 minutes ago, Jason M said:

All looks a bit meh to me. A couple of weeks of rather cold weather coming up but nothing out of the ordinary. Its the sort of pattern where for most its cold enough to snow except when stuff is falling out of the sky. Still no meaningful signal for HLB over the next couple of weeks and without that forget any deep cold. Ignore the GFS snow charts as away from high ground it is mostly just going to be cold rain. 

 

Did you forget to take your Prozac today? 

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook

Deep FI shows the one mahor risk with this rinse and repeat set-up, that eventually one of them id going to take hold of the central Atlantic and your going to end in a SW airflow no matter how strong the northern blocking becomes. Arctic set-up isn't as good on this run either though.

Still, decent length cold spell emerging...

I think some have been badly spoiled by some of those runs GFS was briefly pumping out...they literally were all time great charts, one of them was in my top 5 model run in the last 15 years...and I've seen some real crazy looking runs!

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  • Location: Liphook
  • Location: Liphook
1 minute ago, Jason M said:

No, but you clearly took your happy pills 

12z GFS OP is the type of run where I'd expect plenty of troughs and features to pop up closer to the time, its a pretty cyclonic flow and these tend not to be picked up too well until day-4/5.

Nothing to be unhappy about...imagine this was all that was on the horizon for the next 15 days...

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That pattern held for 15 days...so just a little perspective on what we are seeing guys!!

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  • Location: Hertfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: SNOW AND FREEZING TEMPS
  • Location: Hertfordshire

Yer that was bit of a meh run , no locked in cold and when the cold did get in the uppers wasn’t great . Not that it matters because it won’t happen like that . Next run please . 

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  • Location: Banbury
  • Location: Banbury
2 hours ago, Easton Luna Boys said:

We've been hearing about background noise since November now. It's just that; background noise.

We've also seen 'decent' charts (from a cold perspective) which have not come to anything. Hope springs eternal - actually, I'd rather Spring springs eternal! 

Well more fool you if you expected winter wonderland from Dec 1st , the noise was focussed on something called the SSW which was why comments of a back loaded winter were made . It was always thought we would have to wait until possibly Mid to late Jan into Feb ……….so here we are.

Surely you cant really think every eye candy chart will come off , I'm afraid chasing the dream happens every winter and yet we still come back.

 

Enjoy the next chase , which will start next weekend and IMO be fruitful for many 

 

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  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.
  • Weather Preferences: Four true seasons. Hot summers and cold winters.
  • Location: Warsaw, Poland. Formerly London.
35 minutes ago, tight isobar said:

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The purple headed yoghurt slinger strikes again. Who gets the money shot?

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