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Like what is happening in the US just now with the crazy low temperatures! 

Does anyone know if the polar vortex has ever sunk over the UK? I would imagine it would be carnage with the mild waters that surround us?? Any thoughts 

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1 minute ago, Penicuikblizzard said:

Does anyone know if the polar vortex has ever sunk over the UK? I would imagine it would be carnage with the mild waters that surround us?? Any thoughts 

The only time I can remember off the top of my head during my life time ( I am 22) and years of weather model watching (since 2009) of seeing the PV or at least a section of it over the UK was during December 2010

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Thoughts from  a minor snow event.  

Yesterday's experience of driving on main/trunk roads was horrendous. From Dundee south to the border, I experienced along the line, wet snow, slush, snizzle, rain, fog, poor light.  Also, bad driving to the extent that some overtaking, from speeding lorries and some cars, regularly sprayed brown grit, slush etc over the windscreen which occluded vision and caused on one occasion a skid. 

South of the border ( Tebay/Shap, M6 ) is for another thread.:shok:

Snow might be fine in your back garden or on the hills.

 

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So according to a post in the banter thread it's spelt SNOW!!! i dare each of you to go into the thread and post as many times as you can using the word SNAW coz said poster say it has been winding him up... i would do it myself but for some reason im still unable to post in that thread.. no idea why, its not like im a wind up merchant or anything. 🤣🥃

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2 minutes ago, ciel said:

Also, bad driving to the extent that some overtaking, from speeding lorries and some cars,

 

Always makes me nervous when folk head into the snowy lane to overtake. Who knows if they have winter tyres, and even that's no guarantee they'll stay on the road 😮

 

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5 minutes ago, Kirkcaldy Weather said:

The only time I can remember off the top of my head during my life time ( I am 22) and years of weather model watching (since 2009) of seeing the PV or at least a section of it over the UK was during December 2010

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Thanks for taking the time to look out the past charts,,,,,I remember that red warning day very well,,it was carnage in Edinburgh 😮

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Just now, Penicuikblizzard said:

Thanks for taking the time to look out the past charts,,,,,I remember that red warning day very well,,it was carnage in Edinburgh 😮

no problem as you can probably tell I am a snow fanatic 😀 I cant remember that off the top of my head but no wonder as a lot of us had already been snawed in well before then :oldrofl: I was living in the highest part of Kirkcaldy during the 2010 Day After Tomorrow type stuff and the end of November streamer event gave me over a foot of snow and some great thundersnow (+ the rest of the snaw in December too of course).

Ah those were the days ... and going back to what I said yesterday @LomondSnowstorm where art thou, come back and join us, back when you were in your prime with the snow analysis and forecasts that you posted in here 2009, 2010 etc you were a lucky charm for snow and in this frustrating winter we need your luck 🙂 :drinks:

@LomondSnowstorm returning would bring scenes like this 😂 

 

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32 minutes ago, bigsnow said:

So according to a post in the banter thread it's spelt SNOW!!! i dare each of you to go into the thread and post as many times as you can using the word SNAW coz said poster say it has been winding him up... i would do it myself but for some reason im still unable to post in that thread.. no idea why, its not like im a wind up merchant or anything. 🤣🥃

on it 😁

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Surprised no mention at all in the forum about expected low mins tonight, BBC reckoning possible -15 degrees in Grampians. Would be good to know of current min temps.

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Well the bbc weather for the week ahead just caught my eye... possible Snaw event on Sunday and possible another Monday too.. and at the end the fella said a chance of winds from the east a small chance tho.

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14 minutes ago, damianslaw said:

Surprised no mention at all in the forum about expected low mins tonight, BBC reckoning possible -15 degrees in Grampians. Would be good to know of current min temps.

Screenshot_20190130-220116.thumb.jpg.9917148b8caaefc4b92bbce20665e7c9.jpg netatmo live map, not sure how accurate these are, placement of the outside module is really important obviously, a fair bit of variation 

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28 minutes ago, Ruzzi said:

One of the most amazing photos I've ever seen. It's Chicago in the background with the sea totally frozen. Highs today there were -27C. Absolutely unbelievable!! 

 

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Blimey thats a bit brass monkeys is that!! i hope they have enough bread and milk.

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1 hour ago, damianslaw said:

Surprised no mention at all in the forum about expected low mins tonight, BBC reckoning possible -15 degrees in Grampians. Would be good to know of current min temps.

Just another day at the office up there DL 😁

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36 minutes ago, Ruzzi said:

One of the most amazing photos I've ever seen. It's Chicago in the background with the sea totally frozen. Highs today there were -27C. Absolutely unbelievable!! 

 

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That is absolutely stunning! 

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55 minutes ago, Ruzzi said:

One of the most amazing photos I've ever seen. It's Chicago in the background with the sea totally frozen. Highs today there were -27C. Absolutely unbelievable!! 

 

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Wow! Imagine seeing the firth of forth like that 😂 

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1 hour ago, Ruzzi said:

One of the most amazing photos I've ever seen. It's Chicago in the background with the sea totally frozen. Highs today there were -27C. Absolutely unbelievable!! 

 

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Not that it stops it from being a stunning image, but it’s actually Lake Michigan in the foreground (a freshwater lake the size of Wales!) 

Weather in the American Midwest can be pretty extreme. The polar air can travel down there across thousands of miles of land without warming up the way it does when it crosses the open sea.  The Great Lakes produce lake effect snow by convection in the same way that the North Sea (occasionally) does for us during an easterly.

Some of the temperature swings can be pretty crazy as warm air from the Gulf of Mexico can make its way northwards.  St. Louis, Missouri is forecast to have a temperature swing from -17C now to +16C by Monday!

 

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24 minutes ago, Spindrift2017 said:

Not that it stops it from being a stunning image, but it’s actually Lake Michigan in the foreground (a freshwater lake the size of Wales!) 

Weather in the American Midwest can be pretty extreme. The polar air can travel down there across thousands of miles of land without warming up the way it does when it crosses the open sea.  The Great Lakes produce lake effect snow by convection in the same way that the North Sea (occasionally) does for us during an easterly.

Some of the temperature swings can be pretty crazy as warm air from the Gulf of Mexico can make its way northwards.  St. Louis, Missouri is forecast to have a temperature swing from -17C now to +16C by Monday!

 

Yep, I realised my mistake about 20 mins after I posted when it dawned on me that Chicago is nowhere near a coast lol. 

The lake effect snow that buffalo got a year or 2 ago from the Great Lakes was utterly insane, can't remember what year it was but there's some amazing photos where it shows the true meaning on snow machine 

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Was actually 2014, can't believe it was that long ago but here's some of the photos, the true image of lake effect snow. It's literally being lifted and laid like a conveyor belt. They actually received 7 inches of snow in 30 mins which they claim is an unofficial record. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Huntforsnow said:

Sunday may be interesting for some 🤷

Yes hopefully we can see a big snow event  on Sunday before it turns milder next week.

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Some great pictures and posts in here tonight 🙂

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