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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs

    and so the hunt for cold and snow continue, yes things are due to turn chillier but the deep cold and snow have missed us again, i guess until we can get it into our heads that until snow is falling in our backyards we have to take any forecast with a huge pinch of salt. Models that show such potential 10 days away are never going to come off, i for one am now of the opinion that our tiny island will see winters turning ever milder.

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    "BOOM! Could be before Christmas...." "Look at that, it will be after Christmas...." "Ah no, it will be after New Years...." "Plenty of potential for mid-January...."    

    Perhaps we should ban all model charts beyond T+120 hours. We could then go back to the 70-80's and actually watch weather forecasts from professionals. Probably not believing them anyway and happy to

    Unusually for me, I'm not even longing for snow and I LOVE snow. Just want heat and the sun back. Maybe I'm still traumatised from being a hermit for a week during Beast from the East!

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  • Location: Yorkshire
  • Location: Yorkshire

    BBC/Meteo 24hr forecast has snow along M62 corridor tonight, then East Midlands and London tomorrow morning. The suggestion is it might get down to low levels wherever it hits down  that eastern side. The Met office is also suggesting snow showers in the morning down the west coast - even possibly into Cornwall and Devon. I presume it would be restricted to high ground there. It looks like the snowier models are winning so far. Temperature forecasts for the next few days also look to be dropping a bit lower than before.  Maybe there is a bit more hope for snow in the South and at lower levels.

    It's already snowing up high on the A66 across the northern Pennines amongst the rain of the first weather front. The temperature here is 7.8C, from 8.4C an hour ago, and the clouds are starting to get that undefined wintery look of snow higher up.

    Edit - Highest ground in North Wales also has a touch of sleet and snow on radar already.

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  • Location: East London
  • Location: East London

    Didn't know where to ask so I guess I'll try here. 

    How comes places like Hokkaido (Japan) that are further south than UK on a lower latitude have lying snow on the ground well into spring whereas over here the sun is too strong for snow to be long lasting in march? 

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  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy, wintry weather
  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
    2 hours ago, Zesyph said:

    ?Didn't know where to ask so I guess I'll try here. 

    How comes places like Hokkaido (Japan) that are further south than UK on a lower latitude have lying snow on the ground well into spring whereas over here the sun is too strong for snow to be long lasting in march? 

    Hi Zesyph,

    I'll have a stab at answering this, if I can. Between 30 and 60 degrees North, the prevailing wind blows from West to East. 

    See diagram below:

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    Consequently, winds are blowing from the very cold interior of Asia and flowing towards Japan, in Winter. Whereas the prevailing westerlies in our part of the Northern Hemisphere, are flowing in from the relatively mild, Atlantic Ocean.

    Unfortunately for cold and snow lovers, here in the U.K, we have a temperate, Maritime Climate. The British Isles has a similar Climate to Western Columbia (between 50 and 60 degrees, north) in Canada. At a similar latitude to the U.K., that part of Canada also has a vast, relatively mild, Ocean to it's West.

    I hope that explanation helps.

    Regards,

    Tom.  :hi:

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    3 hours ago, Zesyph said:

    Didn't know where to ask so I guess I'll try here. 

    How comes places like Hokkaido (Japan) that are further south than UK on a lower latitude have lying snow on the ground well into spring whereas over here the sun is too strong for snow to be long lasting in march? 

    The Gulf Stream, plus we have a maritime climate.

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  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
  • Weather Preferences: obviously snow!
  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
    5 hours ago, eddy88888 said:

    I really hope it stays nice and mild and dry as a postman that is perfect for me, dont want the cold and snow, and looking at the runs today looks like mild is winning happy days? 

    lucky living in 2019, when I was a kid, cold and snow was common, now rare

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  • Location: Yorkshire
  • Location: Yorkshire

    Er, Hokkaido sees snow linger well into spring because it's one of the snowiest places in the world. Even when the weather turns warm it can take weeks - if not months - to melt snow when your annual average is 5metres+.

    https://unofficialnetworks.com/2016/10/28/how-much-does-it-snow-in-japan/

     

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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs

    when are they going to learn in the mod thread, tonights excitement will be the mornings doom and gloom.  

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  • Location: East London
  • Location: East London
    7 hours ago, TomSE12 said:

    Hi Zesyph,

    I'll have a stab at answering this, if I can. Between 30 and 60 degrees North, the prevailing wind blows from West to East. 

    See diagram below:

    image.thumb.png.4e33f5c06466c52e75142694c98a3124.png

    Consequently, winds are blowing from the very cold interior of Asia and flowing towards Japan, in Winter. Whereas the prevailing westerlies in our part of the Northern Hemisphere, are flowing in from the relatively mild, Atlantic Ocean.

    Unfortunately for cold and snow lovers, here in the U.K, we have a temperate, Maritime Climate. The British Isles has a similar Climate to Western Columbia (between 50 and 60 degrees, north) in Canada. At a similar latitude to the U.K., that part of Canada also has a vast, relatively mild, Ocean to it's West.

    I hope that explanation helps.

    Regards,

    Tom.  :hi:

    Hi Tom, thanks for the reply. That does make sense. Japan stood out to me as they are also a small island like us but obviously in a very different location. Siberian winds on a westerly flow, glad to have learned something new ?

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  • Location: G.Manchester
  • Location: G.Manchester
    4 hours ago, sparky1972 said:

    when are they going to learn in the mod thread, tonights excitement will be the mornings doom and gloom.  

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    People can only report on what they see. Go back to the old model threads and read up on the week(s) leading upto memorable cold spells (e.g 2013 & 2018). The model thread is a great tool in keeping a record of the drama/hysteria/science whatever you want to call it and reflecting upon it. 

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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs

    well i have to admit to being surprised this morning that the mood in the Mod thread was so positive, but i guess now the only way is downgrades for a while and get to some half way point so chilly yes, maybe a bit of snow for the hills

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  • Location: Walsall, West Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - cold, summer - not hot
  • Location: Walsall, West Midlands

    Nice and cold out there today, frosty too all day in the shady spots.  Classic winter weather.  How anyone can prefer the mild, wet Atlantic dross that passes for our winter weather most of the time is beyond me.

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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs

    oh dear, looks like we have swapped the normal early morning disappointment to early evening disappointment, all things not rosey in the Mod thread garden

     

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  • Location: Linford, Essex
  • Location: Linford, Essex
    4 hours ago, sparky1972 said:

    oh dear, looks like we have swapped the normal early morning disappointment to early evening disappointment, all things not rosey in the Mod thread garden

     

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    ?? Seems fine to me!

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  • Location: Shirley, Croydon, Greater London
  • Location: Shirley, Croydon, Greater London

    MetO are now hinting of possible disruptive snow next week

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    Might as well get some practice in........

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  • Location: Ashford Kent
  • Weather Preferences: 1. Clear skies 2. Cold 3. Snow 4. Hot
  • Location: Ashford Kent

    I'm sick.  I get a real kick out of the disruption that snowfall brings.   I mean, yeah I love the fun stuff, the snowmen with the kids, snowball fights etc, i love the sound of silence it brings, the muffled noises and orange glows of white streets but i also really love the chaos which accompanies it.  Cars sliding, abandoned, stuck, people slipping and sliding all over the place, nothing moving, country at a standstill, gives me a real kick. 

    That must be a sickness, it cant be normal. 

    But I think its because it also brings out the best in people... helping others, talking, sharing stories, laughing etc.  

    Or maybe i'm just sick.  

    Who knows. 

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  • Location: London and Czech Republic
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: London and Czech Republic
    29 minutes ago, Big Dave said:

    I'm sick.  I get a real kick out of the disruption that snowfall brings.   I mean, yeah I love the fun stuff, the snowmen with the kids, snowball fights etc, i love the sound of silence it brings, the muffled noises and orange glows of white streets but i also really love the chaos which accompanies it.  Cars sliding, abandoned, stuck, people slipping and sliding all over the place, nothing moving, country at a standstill, gives me a real kick. 

    That must be a sickness, it cant be normal. 

    But I think its because it also brings out the best in people... helping others, talking, sharing stories, laughing etc.  

    Or maybe i'm just sick.  

    Who knows. 

    Lol...no not sick BD don’t worry. I think we all have a bit of that in us during proper wintery spells...it’s the excitement...and you’re so right in saying it brings out that helpful, caring side. Plus, we all know it won’t last forever so we just make the most of it on our little island. Carpe diem!

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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs

    morning all, well plenty of postitve feedback in the Mod thread regarding the incomming chilly spell, for MBY we have some rain to get through tonight/tomorrow then a rainy showery day on tuesday then the forecast is for mostly cloudy skies and daytime temps no lower than 4/5c so feeling a bit more like winter but no deep freeze.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

    John Hammonds latest monthly forecast

    • Increasingly cold end to January
    • Several snowfalls possible
    • Some milder spells in February

    Subscribers can read the full forecast here: https://weathertrending.com/2019/01/18/john-hammond-month-ahead-winter-freeze-over/

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  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
    3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

    50p flakes means things are marginal, what you really want is tiny, dry powder snowfall, when that type of snow falls you know you’re in a cold spell!

    All the models have their flaws.. I tend to use EURO4/APERGE blend but it depends how they fit in with the other Hi-Res models. 

    Absolutely! This misconception that big flakes are good is disappointing on a weather forum, where one would expect people to observe snowfall enough to have established the difference. That dry tiny powder snow accumulates far faster because the entire lot settles, whereas much of the 50p flake type wet snow melts as it settles and comes into contact with the warmer surface. We'll know where in Narnia when it pellets it down.

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