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SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 07/11/2018

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2 hours ago, lassie23 said:

Is this the same coffee the met office smell, shouldn't we have easterlies and heavy snow showers by now, according to them?🤔

What am I going to do with all this fat I’ve put on in preparation for a cold winter ?? It best hurry up and get here now 😜 a wee man in Austria tells me 25th Feb is when the cold returns. 🤔🤔

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8 minutes ago, shotski said:

What am I going to do with all this fat I’ve put on in preparation for a cold winter ?? It best hurry up and get here now 😜 a wee man in Austria tells me 25th Feb is when the cold returns. 🤔🤔

i look forward to it

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Day off today so we could work on the allotment, picked a perfect day for it. 26.c in the poly tunnel, very nice sitting there drinking coffee in that warmth!

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Should be illegal to work on days so glorious! 😩

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43 minutes ago, shotski said:

What am I going to do with all this fat I’ve put on in preparation for a cold winter ?? It best hurry up and get here now 😜 a wee man in Austria tells me 25th Feb is when the cold returns. 🤔🤔

We got ten days to get to Aldi and stock up... again. I'm still trying to get through the last lot I bought in January. Whenever I see the letters SSW I'm straight into panic mode and stripping the shelves. 

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51 minutes ago, shotski said:

What am I going to do with all this fat I’ve put on in preparation for a cold winter ?? It best hurry up and get here now 😜 a wee man in Austria tells me 25th Feb is when the cold returns. 🤔🤔

Hi Shotski,

You and me both. I blame my Wife's cooking for my expanding waistline. Her son treated her to a slow cooker ( as a very early Mother's Day, present) and we've already had a fantastic chicken casserole with delicious dumplings. She wants to cook a beef casserole, on Sunday!!

As I stated earlier, even though it's our Anniversary today, Colette won't let me order in a takeaway for the pair of us tonight. Mindful that we're a bit short of dosh, she's insisting on cooking a meal herself, bless her!! 

Re., the frustrating weather patterns this Winter, the Models look interesting around the 22nd Feb. Heights pushing their way N.E  towards Scandinavia. But just when we look ready for "take-off", the core of heights drain away back S.W, again.

My mind goes back to the conversation I had with local Meteorologist, Ian Currie, in early January. I'm sure Ian expected more potent Northerly outbreaks, than we've seen. But he did suggest we would need a "few bites of the cherry" before seeing anything wintry of note. In a way, that wasn't too far off the mark. He didn't foresee any strong blocking over Greenland but that any resultant Northerly, would come off the back of a mid-Atlantic ridge. Which is basically what happened.

When I questioned Mr.Currie about the possibility of a Scandinavian High developing, in the second half of February, Ian thought there was a possibility but no guarantee. He did think that March would be colder than normal though, with a greater chance of seeing height rises over Greenland with perhaps a more potent Northerly, outbreak.

Let's hope Mr.Currie is right and we get a decent dumping before having to write the "obituaries", on a very frustrating Winter!!

Regards,

Tom. :hi:

Edited by TomSE12

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Beautiful day, temps hit 14c on 15th February after a very frosty start. 

More of this please weather gods if it isn’t going to snow. 

What a relief we are replacing cold and snow with sun & warmth instead of Atlantic wet crap in mid Feb.

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10 minutes ago, Ben Lewis said:

Beautiful day, temps hit 14c on 15th February after a very frosty start. 

More of this please weather gods if it isn’t going to snow. 

What a relief we are replacing cold and snow with sun & warmth instead of Atlantic wet crap in mid Feb.

Was an amazing day in N Surrey 3 hour dog walk and my face is a bit weather beaten and dare I say it even a bit sun burnt 🥵 

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3 hours ago, EWS said:

I'm so sorry for your loss. My grandad was 95 when he passed away a couple of years ago and you're right - the likes of him, we'll never see again. It's such a loss. Thinking of you. 

Thank you I appreciate that. I’m honoured to have heard the stories, seen the pictures. You’re right. We’ve lost something as a nation in a lot of the newer generations. Not saying there aren’t lots of decent people but the selflessness and chivalry is disappearing as a common feature in daily life 

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1 hour ago, Badgers01 said:

Was an amazing day in N Surrey 3 hour dog walk and my face is a bit weather beaten and dare I say it even a bit sun burnt 🥵 

I work outside & me and the lads were saying how it felt like a mid spring day. 

Will get to have that long dog walk too tomorrow, be it more cloudier judging by the forecasts. 

At least no rain 😴

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32 minutes ago, Ben Lewis said:

I work outside & me and the lads were saying how it felt like a mid spring day. 

Will get to have that long dog walk too tomorrow, be it more cloudier judging by the forecasts. 

At least no rain 😴

I totally agree with you , absolutely stunning afternoon 14c here not a breath of wind felt like mid May, sorry to all the losers out there on the model thread who are hating this, get a life lads! head to Canada for the week if you want the cold.

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Anyone else notice that weird thunderstorm between Northern Ireland and Scotland? Looks like there's some heavy precipitation in that storm.

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Got to 12.1 here in locksbottom(shade temp) but in the sun must have been 17-18 comfortably.I can count on one hand the amount of times I was just in short sleeves working in February in the last 16 years but today was one of them.It was lovely having the warm sun on your back and with the birds singing and the flowers starting to bloom even an ardent “coldie” like myself is looking forward to spring.that said I know that the weather will do what it wants to do and I wouldn’t be surprised if March had one or two cold snaps as we only have to go back to March 2013 to remember how Spring can suddenly revert back to winter!!

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3 hours ago, zmstorm said:

Anyone else notice that weird thunderstorm between Northern Ireland and Scotland? Looks like there's some heavy precipitation in that storm.

May be it's the winter equivalent of a Spanish plume lol. Missing us to the north east, may be hitting Scotland.

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Morning all,

Up early again to have breakfast with my Wife of 9 years and a day, soon. Poor Colette is facing a 12 hour shift today, bless her!!

Well overnight Model runs seem to have drifted further away from a late Winter, wintry spell. Although, Models still show that push of heights to the N.E., around about 22nd Feb nut they soon retreat back S.W, again.

I'm still holding out for a wintry spell in March, courtesy of Ian Currie's Greenland height rises and a resultant snowy, Northerly:whistling:Sorry Lauren and all, not ready for Spring just yet!! :nonono:

And on that note, if the snow wont come to us, I'll have to bring snow to the masses!! Below, are another couple of photos from Ian Currie's, Kent and Surrey Weather books. Firstly a photo of late snowfall, in my Home Borough of Bromley, N.W.Kent. This snowfall occurred on 26th April, 1950. This photo was taken at Hayes Common, it could well be Croydon Road?? The heavy. wet clinging snow, brought down hundreds of miles of telephone wires, across Kent.

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An area of Low pressure, tracked S.E down the North Sea, from Iceland.

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Cold air spread south on the 25th and as a wave ran along the English Channel, rain accompanied by strong winds, turned to heavy, wet snow. This caused much traffic disruption and brought down many telephone and electricity lines. Reports of 15 cms of snow were recorded from Salisbury, over to Faversham.

Below is a photo of the result of snowfall, from the same event. It was taken on the road between Hindhead and Farnham. It shows the Haslemere to Aldershot bus, having skidded off the road:

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These photos were reproduced from the Kent and Surrey County Weather Books respectively, with the very kind permission of Co-Author, Ian Currie.

Regards,

Tom. :hi:

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I hope my fellow Bromleyites, in alphabetical order: abbie123, Biggin (Bromley/Croydon border?),EWS(Chelsfield,Orpington), Hotspur61 (Locksbottom), Scrat (Biggin Hill) and Snowbob (Biggin Hill/New Addington, Bromley/Croydon border), can help me out here. If I've left out any Bromley Members, I apologise, my memory's not quite what it was, now!! :nonono:

Btw, I hope you all enjoyed the photo of Hayes Common, in the snow, I'm sure you all know the road well.

Just a bit of local history first. Bromley's name is derived from the Broom shrub. This grows in abundance on the Common land, to the South of Bromley Town, Centre. When I was younger, I used to enjoy walking through the Commons, around Keston and Hayes. No doubt, if the weather remains Springlike, we'll soon see it's bright yellow flowers, across the Borough's Common Land. Also, the local Housing Association, Broomleigh, takes its name from this shrub.

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Now that poser, for my fellow Bromleyites. Myself and my Wife, Colette, were born, raised, educated and have spent most of our lives, in the Bromley area. Although, we now live in the Lewisham Borough but only a short distance from the Bromley border.

The photo below shows the 119 bus route on its way from Bromley to Croydon. When I was working near East Croydon, I used to take this bus frequently from Bromley North, to my workplace. Colette and myself are convinced this photo was taken opposite St.Mark's Church, in Westmoreland Road. It then turns into Hayes Road, then into Hayes Lane, on its way to Croydon. The photo depicts the severe flooding that affected the area, in September, 1968. I was 12, at the time:

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The culprit was a deepening depression, on the S.W. tip of the U.K. and it broke the Summer heat, in spectacular fashion. Violent thunderstorms and heavy rain developed on Saturday 14th September. This heavy, thundery rain, continued for some time. So much so that the local Rivers, Ravensbourne and its tributary, the River Quaggy, broke their banks and caused widespread flooding, throughout the Borough of Bromley. I lived near Sundridge Park Golf Course , at the time and the River Quaggy, runs through there. It then runs on into Chinbrook Park, near Grove Park. The flooding in the park, was unbelievable!! The floodwaters were as high as the top of lampposts, in the park. A crazy weather event!!

So, if any of you Bromleyites (that I mentioned, above) can help me out and confirm that, the photo was taken opposite St.Mark's Church, in Westmoreland Road. Colette and myself, would really appreciate it. Thank you.

Strangely, Ian Currie has included this photo in his Surrey County Weather Book. Now Colette and myself, are Bromley through and through. No offence to Surrey Members but we consider ourselves, Kentish born and products of the Garden of England County.But I've just found out that Kent has lost that title, to Yorkshire!!

We don't even refer to ourselves as, Sarrf-East Londoners!!  :nonono:

Regards,

Tom.  :hi:

 

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1 hour ago, TomSE12 said:

I hope my fellow Bromleyites, in alphabetical order: abbie123, Biggin (Bromley/Croydon border?),EWS(Chelsfield,Orpington), Hotspur61 (Locksbottom), Scrat (Biggin Hill) and Snowbob (Biggin Hill/New Addington, Bromley/Croydon border), can help me out here. If I've left out any Bromley Members, I apologise, my memory's not quite what it was, now!! :nonono:

The photo below shows the 119 bus route on its way from Bromley to Croydon. When I was working near East Croydon, I used to take this bus frequently from Bromley North, to my workplace. Colette and myself are convinced this photo was taken opposite St.Mark's Church, in Westmoreland Road. It then turns into Hayes Road, then into Hayes Lane, on its way to Croydon. The photo depicts the severe flooding that affected the area, in September, 1968. I was 12, at the time:

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So, if any of you Bromleyites (that I mentioned, above) can help me out and confirm that, the photo was taken opposite St.Mark's Church, in Westmoreland Road. Colette and myself, would really appreciate it. Thank you.

 

 

Very interesting re. the Broom shrub @TomSE12 - I take the 353 bus from Orpington to Hayes that goes through Keston and over the common so this is a familiar sight and I never knew the origin of Bromley's name. 

I was born in Croydon in but we moved to the Kent coast when I was very young (I moved back up to SE London when I was 18, living in Woolwich, Charlton, Grove Park, Lewisham among other places before settling here).  My family are from the Bellingham / Lee Green / West Wickham / Beckenham areas, so whilst I can't place the church, I'll see if anyone recognises it! 

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11 minutes ago, EWS said:

Very interesting re. the Broom shrub @TomSE12 - I take the 353 bus from Orpington to Hayes that goes through Keston and over the common so this is a familiar sight and I never knew the origin of Bromley's name. 

I was born in Croydon in but we moved to the Kent coast when I was very young (I moved back up to SE London when I was 18, living in Woolwich, Charlton, Grove Park, Lewisham among other places before settling here).  My family are from the Bellingham / Lee Green / West Wickham / Beckenham areas, so whilst I can't place the church, I'll see if anyone recognises it! 

Yes @TomSE12, you're right. My mum remembers the flooding very well (she was 16) and says she wouldn't be surprised if she was on that bus! Similar angle, from googlemaps:

 

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BBQ out and ready for action, tomatoes planted so expect a big freeze.

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Thanks TomSE12 for the history of Bromley,all good stuff.EWS Beat me to it re Westmorland Road bit and St marks church.I spent many a happy Sunday with my dear old Gran up in Durham avenue which is up Westmoreland Road and take a right just off Cumberland Road.A very nice distraction while we pray for another cold spell which seems rather elusive atm!!Mind you it is only mid February so I feel we have another month to go before the search finally moves to Winter 2019-20!!

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Ive just been posted to West wickham on a temporary move so I will be doing the Jail Lane run every day up past keston ponds !

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I enjoyed reading all the history about Bromley. As you know I enjoy reading your posts @TomSE12 can I be a honouree member of Bromley? My husband is from there and we spend of time there visiting family. 

Today I took the kids to Hastings, it was very cloudy most of the time but still quite warm my son decided to wear shorts even after I warned him he might get cold and should change them, it was warm enough for shorts so he won that argument. At around midday the sun came out and it was really nice. We had a game of crazy golf which is right in the sea front and it was still pleasant. When we left the temperature was around 13. 

My husband is threatening a BBQ for tomorrow. That man would BBQ in snow if I would let him. 

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Well, i am not losing hope for some snow after reading Tom's post about that April snowfall. I am definitely not in the  isn't this weather wonderful camp- it's just wrong for it to be so mild at this time of year. Nature will hopefully balance things out come March. A March like 2013, except a bit snowier, would be nice!

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15 minutes ago, Bricriu said:

Well, i am not losing hope for some snow after reading Tom's post about that April snowfall. I am definitely not in the  isn't this weather wonderful camp- it's just wrong for it to be so mild at this time of year. Nature will hopefully balance things out come March. A March like 2013, except a bit snowier, would be nice!

Hi Bricriu,

How about a March snowfall like this one? 

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I recommend reading about the March 1970 snowfall, on Trevor Harley's enjoyable - The British Weather, website. There are some  excellent "stats", about that month. on there.

Let's hope for a similar snowy spell, to that one!! :whistling:

Regards,

Tom. :hi:

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