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CFS 12Z Is Still Going For A Cold Start To March

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29 minutes ago, John Stevens said:

But that's only to make the meteorological statistics simpler to analyse ie splitting the seasons into equal quarters based upon the months of the year, solely based upon the Gregorian calendar. However, geographically and astronomically, due to the earth's tilt and distance from the sun during the year the dates of the astronomical seasons are based upon physics/ observations that underpinned the calculations of the Julian calendar. 

It's not really an "old chestnut" it's based upon scientific fact... The metrological seasons have only been established for convenience of establishing seasonal/ monthly statistics within a specified time frame in the christmas pudding for the benefit of commerce and various weather reliant industries, whereas the physics of the astronomical seasons cannot be changed and are fixed by our tilt, speed of orbit around the sun and speed of rotation. 

And yes, everyone might have a "take" on it, but as a geographer, scientist and historian, you can't escape physics. Therefore, I'll stand by my original point that winter doesn't end until around or on 21st March.

Well great if that works for you , but for me winter does not begin on the 21st of Dec or summer end on the 21st of September and Spring for me has definitely sprung before the 21st of March. I prefer the accepted scientific meteorological definition of the seasons. 

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Typo !

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19 minutes ago, Badgers01 said:

Well great if that works for you , but for me winter does not begin on the 21st of Dec or summer end on the 21st of September and Spring for me has definitely sprung before the 21st of March. I prefer the accepted scientific meteorological definition of the seasons. 

Respect your POV, but both have equally accepted scientific basis...hey hum, at the end of the day neither is actually wrong... .. Also apologies.... Not quite sure where the "Christmas pudding" reference popped up in my original reply... Predictive text of some obscure nature 🙄🙄

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Once again a sharp frost this morning 

All surfaces white.

Currently -0.8 dropped to -2.3 

Looks like winter but will feel like spring once that suns up today..

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Right old battle this morning: team sunshine versus team fog. I know who I’ve got money on for victory 🌞🌞🌞!!

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Up very early with my Wife, before she set off for her early morning shift, at a Residential Care Home, in Chislehurst.

It's a very special day for myself and Colette, it's our 9th Wedding Anniversary.

I first met my Wife when out shopping with my sister, Angela. Angela and Colette were friends and ex-classmates when they were at School together in Bromley. Angela had told me about this very attractive friend she had, who she thought resembled, actress Julia Roberts. 

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I first "clapped" eyes on Colette, when she was standing next to the Baguettes, in Waitrose. She had just been on holiday and was very taken with her very tanned, long and slender, Baguettes. My sister invited Colette to come and have a "cuppa", back at our parents house after shopping. We seemed to hit it off, straight away. I walked her home afterwards and was struck by her very attractive eyes and hair, indeed very Julia Roberts like!!

Colette wrote to me a week later, asking if I'd like to meet her for a coffee. My sister and I invited her to our parents house and we cooked her a lovely Italian meal of Pasta and Meatballs. We saw each other for a few times afterwards but I was married and my Wife at the time, was very ill with Huntington's Disease. 

Myself and Colette, eventually started seeing each other again but it was a very on/off relationship. Sadly, my first Wife died of complications, due to HD in 2008. Colette and myself finally got married in 2010, we even had a sprinkling of snow, outside the Registry Office in Sidcup, N.W.Kent. A couple of "snaps", from that day.

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Us, with Colette's son, a gentle giant of a guy!!

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I was with Colette on the evening she finally got a diagnosis for her son's problems. She'd fought long and hard to get Doctor's and Teachers to understand that her son, had major problems. She was on her own at the time and felt very alone, coping with all these difficulties. She came out of that final assessment looking relieved but saddened, at the same time. Her son had been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. She felt relieved in a way, as it proved she wasn't "going mad", as some Doctors had implied.

Our relationship has been very difficult at times. I think our families serious health issues, came between us!!

But I have nothing but praise for my Wife, in the way which she has nursed me back to health, after my Haemorrhagic Stroke of September 2015. It was a very traumatic time for Colette. She was present at King's College Hospital when I "died" twice and was "shoved" out of my room, while Doctors/Nurses, resuscitated me.

She has "stepped up to the plate" many times during my recovery. She had to fill in umpteen forms, fighting to obtain Disability Benefit, for me. She's been like a "dog with a bone", trying to get me extra Physiotherapy appointments with Hospital Departments!!

I really hope she doesn't get "bullied" into working this afternoon, as I would like us to have some time together, on our "special day". I wanted us to have a quiet takeaway together tonight but Colette is insisting on cooking us a meal. That's my stubborn Wife, for you.

Regards,

Tom. :hi:

 

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11 minutes ago, TomSE12 said:

Up very early with my Wife, before she set off for her early morning shift, at a Residential Care Home, in Chislehurst.

It's a very special day for myself and Colette, it's our 9th Wedding Anniversary.

 

Happy anniversary, Tom & Colette - I hope you have a lovely day!

I went out for an early morning walk - it was 2C when I left, beautiful sunshie and blue sky, and I managed to slip quite badly on some ice walking down a steep pavement. If you're a klutz like me, please be careful this morning! 

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2 minutes ago, EWS said:

Happy anniversary, Tom & Colette - I hope you have a lovely day!

I went out for an early morning walk - it was 2C when I left, beautiful sunshie and blue sky, and I managed to slip quite badly on some ice walking down a steep pavement. If you're a klutz like me, please be careful this morning! 

I had a fall this morning, wasn't the frost though. Had to run for the bus, and one of my legs decided not to work.

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19 minutes ago, TomSE12 said:

Up very early with my Wife, before she set off for her early morning shift, at a Residential Care Home, in Chislehurst.

It's a very special day for myself and Colette, it's our 9th Wedding Anniversary.

Happy anniversary.

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10 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:

I had a fall this morning, wasn't the frost though. Had to run for the bus, and one of my legs decided not to work.

Hope you're okay?👍

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Much thanks, to Alexis and EWS, above ^^^^^. Hope both of you ladies, are ok after your falls!!

Colette had to go off to work today with a nasty cold and an eye infection, to boot. One of the viral hazards, of working in a Residential Care Home for the elderly and infirmed. She's exposed to all manner of nasty illnesses, for which she gets paid, an absolute pittance!!

Regards,

Tom. :hi:

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4 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

Hope you're okay?👍

Yep just a few scratches on my left hand, and probably sore shoulders from tomorrow morning, going by last time.

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Much more fog/low cloud today here, may be one of those days where things don't really improve till 12-1pm and we will keep suppressed temperatures until then.

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Sunny here today, temp already 8.2, will be warmer than yesterday.

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2 hours ago, TomSE12 said:

Much thanks, to Alexis and EWS, above ^^^^^. Hope both of you ladies, are ok after your falls!!

Colette had to go off to work today with a nasty cold and an eye infection, to boot. One of the viral hazards, of working in a Residential Care Home for the elderly and infirmed. She's exposed to all manner of nasty illnesses, for which she gets paid, an absolute pittance!!

Regards,

Tom. 

I admire anyone who cares for the elderly in care homes. As you say getting paid pittance to be the best possible carer you can be. 

My grandad was moved into a care home yesterday as he’s 92 and been poorly lately and needed more round the clock care. I had a lovely dream about him last night in his new cosy room and he said he was happy.

I woke up this morning to the sad news he passed away during his sleep. He was such a gentleman - the world’s lost another from the golden generation. I’ll be toasting a drink in honour of him tonight.

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Wonderful early afternoon out there, clear skies, temperature just below 13c.

Also max temperature today so far is Rhyl at 16c.

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They are 'smelling the coffee' again in the Cold Thread and I think that they may be about to call the hunt ON again. 

The excitement is unbearable....... 

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2 minutes ago, Wimbledon88 said:

They are 'smelling the coffee' again in the Cold Thread and I think that they may be about to call the hunt ON again. 

The excitement is unbearable....... 

Is this the same coffee the met office smell, shouldn't we have easterlies and heavy snow showers by now, according to them?🤔

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When you look at these current European temperatures it just goes to show you how out they were. They can't even say the forecasted very cold weather just missed us!! 🙂

 

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4 minutes ago, lassie23 said:

Is this the same coffee the met office smell, shouldn't we have easterlies and heavy snow showers by now, according to them?🤔

Stockwell's is only 78p from Tesco!😅

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It’s another beautiful day here in Rye, it started of very cold -1 everything was covered by a thick frost and we were totally blocked in by freezing fog, people were driving around with no lights on. 😡 it’s all cleared now and it’s a stunning afternoon 12 degrees here now.

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Worth noting the 06z GFS doesn't have a single day in its 16 day run where max temperatures are below 10C for at least some parts of the this region. ECM is cooler but still probably around that 10c mark throughout the 10 day run.

So looking like whilst we may cool a touch, still going to be running decently above average for a time to come, maybe exceptionally so...

Today is basically a mid April kind of day, and the days are just getting long enough in the evening to feel a little bit spring like as well.

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Beautiful spring-like sunshine here, perhaps the ground is dry enoughto play a bit of footy...? Current temperature is 10c.

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3 hours ago, CanadianCoops said:

I admire anyone who cares for the elderly in care homes. As you say getting paid pittance to be the best possible carer you can be. 

My grandad was moved into a care home yesterday as he’s 92 and been poorly lately and needed more round the clock care. I had a lovely dream about him last night in his new cosy room and he said he was happy.

I woke up this morning to the sad news he passed away during his sleep. He was such a gentleman - the world’s lost another from the golden generation. I’ll be toasting a drink in honour of him tonight.

I'm so sorry for your loss. My grandad was 95 when he passed away a couple of years ago and you're right - the likes of him, we'll never see again. It's such a loss. Thinking of you. 

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