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12 minutes ago, CanadianCoops said:

Those in medway who haven’t had snow and want a fix get yourself up to blue bell hill/walderslade woods. Extremely heavy snow settling to everything accumulating quickly. Even settling on the M2 between blue bell hill and Gillingham (junction 3-4) - quite dangerous.   

Looking across the valley with envy here in Cuxton. 😞

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2 minutes ago, WhiteFox said:

I've noticed in the past that when you have a system developing overhead the radar doesn't match what you see on the ground. I often look for small red echoes that tell me there is a general increase. I think it may be the sudden lifting that is going into the circulation, so it shows as PPN, but actually it's rising. Makes sense to me anyway!

What do you think KW. The latest Meteox shows the precip now arching around southern Hants.

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3 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

It’s touch and go John.

Some precip is moving nw . We need a couple more radar updates to see.

Cheers mate.

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The arm of preciptation which is coming into the new mesoscale low stretches out into the channel as a dry feature and then loops round all the way clockwise past devon and out towards Scarboro way in the NE. What an interesting set up.

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2 minutes ago, WhiteFox said:

Thanks for that. Although it does mean that I shouldn't be so excited about those bright radar returns to my east!

I wonder Whitefox whether your getting a version of what happened to Kent last night, a little low forming which is pulling in milder air around its eastern flank at the boundary level. This time round looks like I'm JUST on the right side based on the rotation and where the system is at the moment.

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1 minute ago, nick sussex said:

What do you think KW. The latest Meteox shows the precip now arching around southern Hants.

Its the dry gap forming

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Nothing happening in Sevenoaks 

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1 minute ago, kold weather said:

I wonder Whitefox whether your getting a version of what happened to Kent last night, a little low forming which is pulling in milder air around its eastern flank at the boundary level. This time round looks like I'm JUST on the right side based on the rotation and where the system is at the moment.

That is probably what is happening, but the radar return is very different. Last night it seemed truer to what what you were seeing on the ground?

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All I know is there a blob over northwest london that hasnt moved much in an hour lol

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2 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

What do you think KW. The latest Meteox shows the precip now arching around southern Hants.

Qutie often radars struggle with hail and ice grapuel and return stronger returns on the radar then what is actually present. It maybe that's what happened here. In summer thunderstorms you can normally pick out strong hail cores because there radar returns will be off the charts for a couple of pixels. Can't be sure without doing a proper look at everything though!

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7 minutes ago, WhiteFox said:

Thanks for that. Although it does mean that I shouldn't be so excited about those bright radar returns to my east!

Would be nice if we could all get one last hurrah with a nice dumping of snow this evening to match our friends in the South West.

Que sera, sera, plenty of winter still to come, February and March can produce, so here's to hoping for a raging easterly in the coming weeks with a few feet of the white stuff on our doorstep, I'll be keeping a close eye on the models anyway.

As I say that it's turning more readily to snow now in Wokingham, fingers crossed it can rebuild and keep going all night at a decent intensity. Obviously the temperatures are starting to drop away now that the sun is setting.

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Temps down to 0.8c Here

probs about 0.3c at WK- snowline lowering

Heavy PPN moving closer-

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3 minutes ago, kold weather said:

I wonder Whitefox whether your getting a version of what happened to Kent last night, a little low forming which is pulling in milder air around its eastern flank at the boundary level. This time round looks like I'm JUST on the right side based on the rotation and where the system is at the moment.

The missus just rang me to say the a3 was down to 30mph near bordon with blizzard like conditions and no visibility.  Meto saying heavy snow for next few hours. Nice little suprise.

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A couple of composites: 👌

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Currently stopped around Basingstoke, light/mod snow falling 

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Just now, Steve Murr said:

Temps down to 0.8c Here

probs about 0.3c at WK- snowline lowering

Heavy PPN moving closer-

Looks like some very heavy precip. just south of Maidstone.

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I'm in this clear space with 0ppn according to the radar but it's heavy snow on the ground.

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2 minutes ago, kold weather said:

Qutie often radars struggle with hail and ice grapuel and return stronger returns on the radar then what is actually present. It maybe that's what happened here. In summer thunderstorms you can normally pick out strong hail cores because there radar returns will be off the charts for a couple of pixels. Can't be sure without doing a proper look at everything though!

That's what I do as well; usually a sign of strong convection if you see a few strong pixels even if the PPN doesn't match. The PPN did explode very suddenly to the South and West of here so I think that's what must have happened.

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Just now, Mapantz said:

A couple of composites: 👌

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Great thanks . Really shows what’s happening .

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Just now, Steve Murr said:

Temps down to 0.8c Here

probs about 0.3c at WK- snowline lowering

Heavy PPN moving closer-

Could we actually get lucky

dont want to expect it after last nights let down

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2 minutes ago, Bedfordblues73 said:

If it would like to stall over Wokingham that would be lovely .....😜

Only after it's done with me.

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