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SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 07/11/2018

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Very harsh frost tonight and plenty of freezing fog around too

Edited by Nimbusman

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While I'm looking forward to tomorrow evening, I don't think it's much to get excited about. Looks like heavy snow from about 8PM onwards (after rush hour which is great) continuing through most of the night, accumulating nicely up to 10cm in favoured spots just to then be topped off by rain from early morning with temps around 2 degrees. Melting mess for a few hours and then pretty much gone. Daytime highs around 5 degrees and and staying there for the foreseeable future with a frost night Sat>Sun.

So instead of giving a fun snow day all this is likely to do is create chaos for Friday morning's rush hour.

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19 minutes ago, Steve Murr said:

watch this low for Monday

expecting to be modelled way further south

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well the cold should be still in place on Monday. Do you think elevation will be an issue tomorrow?

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3 minutes ago, Nqp15hhu said:

No, it’s not. But that event was an extreme event not typical of this area.

Last night was more typical of this area. Just a slushy covering.

Don't be so down pal, honestly the North sea is a snow machine when it gets going N/NE flows are the mutts for Norfolk.

In my 45 years Norfolk and Suffolk have had numerous 20cm events.

Don't count anything out, you yourself said you expected a few cm and got 1, tomorrow could be the complete reverse.

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15 minutes ago, seb said:

While I'm looking forward to tomorrow evening, I don't think it's much to get excited about. Looks like heavy snow from about 8PM onwards (after rush hour which is great) continuing through most of the night, accumulating nicely up to 10cm in favoured spots just to then be topped off by rain from early morning with temps around 2 degrees. Melting mess for a few hours and then pretty much gone. Daytime highs around 5 degrees and and staying there for the foreseeable future with a frost night Sat>Sun.

So instead of giving a fun snow day all this is likely to do is create chaos for Friday morning's rush hour.

What's not to get excited about? Granted its not ideal what may come after but still......

Edited by CanadianCoops

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HIRLAM also better for EA and home counties, hopefully we have now seen the end of those southward adjustments and we have roughly what we have now (maybe a touch north possibly?)

 

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7 minutes ago, Chris101 said:

Don't be so down pal, honestly the North sea is a snow machine when it gets going N/NE flows are the mutts for Norfolk.

In my 45 years Norfolk and Suffolk have had numerous 20cm events.

Don't count anything out, you yourself said you expected a few cm and got 1, tomorrow could be the complete reverse.

Yes with cold easterlies which are not that common.

This area doesn’t do well out of North Westerlies, clearly. 

If you want snow in the UK you are better off living north of Manchester, where a snow fall is semi frequent and guaranteed every winter. 

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1 minute ago, kold weather said:

HIRLAM also better for EA and home counties, hopefully we have now seen the end of those southward adjustments and we have roughly what we have now (maybe a touch north possibly?)

 

So hopefully 10 inches by Friday morning .........😂😂 only jesting , 5 cm and winter wonderland will do me

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GFS 06z 

-10c into SE uk by next friday 😁🚀❄️

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I'll take the GFS right about now, looks good for all of us across the region. HIRLAM looks decent too. 

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2 minutes ago, Nqp15hhu said:

Yes with cold easterlies which are not that common.

This area doesn’t do well out of North Westerlies, clearly. 

Trust me, get a N/NE flow off the sea and Norfolk will pile showers in all day long while the rest of the country stays dry.

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That doesn’t happen often. It is a slush fest most winters.

 

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5 minutes ago, Steve Murr said:

GFS 06z 

-10c into SE uk by next friday 😁🚀❄️

A fan of the 6z GFS now are you Steve? 😂 tentative signs of what the UKM extended outlook have been hinting at.

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13 minutes ago, CanadianCoops said:

What's not to like about that? Granted its not ideal what may come after but still......

Just thinking generally about what people expect from snow... day off, playing in the snow, children having fun, building snowmen, snowball fights, watching the dogs play in the snow...

As I said I'm quite excited about it. If it comes off it's a lame version of a US East Coast winter storm which is followed by a rapid thaw, which his nice to see in the southern part of the UK.

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3 minutes ago, Chris101 said:

Trust me, get a N/NE flow off the sea and Norfolk will pile showers in all day long while the rest of the country stays dry.

Agreed Chris, NNE is the one for us here in Suffolk but anything from N to E wind direction suits Norfolk. Speaking of which the 6z pipes up with an scandi high...

 

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1 minute ago, Nqp15hhu said:

That doesn’t happen often. It is a slush fest most winters.

You said you only been there 4 years, you'll see, keep the faith.

@Ed Stone you can stop laughing, im trying to give this lad some hope here😂🙈🤪

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1 minute ago, Chris101 said:

You said you only been there 4 years, you'll see, keep the faith.

@Ed Stone you can stop laughing, im trying to give this lad some hope here😂🙈🤪

Don’t you think 4 years is long enough to get an insight of the typical winter snowfall situation?

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10 minutes ago, Nqp15hhu said:

That doesn’t happen often. It is a slush fest most winters.

 

Someone's in a good mood this morning...

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4 minutes ago, Nqp15hhu said:

Don’t you think 4 years is long enough to get an insight of the typical winter snowfall situation?

We all went through a pretty much non-snow spell after being spoilt in 2010.

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11 minutes ago, Chris101 said:

Trust me, get a N/NE flow off the sea and Norfolk will pile showers in all day long while the rest of the country stays dry.

Yep, I remember when living in Essex we'd get the rest of the convective left over and dying convective cloud from those streams (though more common from a N) used to look very pretty on an otherwise clear day. Would sometimes get some very light snowfall (sometimes from what looks like a sunny day!) so I'd imagine its quite electric up there coming ashore.

I think unfortunately we've really not many notable northerlies in recent years, several decent easterly/battleground set-ups but not much in the way of pure deep northerlies.

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06Z not looking good for Kent, though North of London could be in for some fun Thursday night. 

I never get too excited about this kind of pattern, it never seems to do well in Kent. Hopefully as we move into Feb we get some Easterly flow and a chance of a real snowfall.

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26 minutes ago, seb said:

While I'm looking forward to tomorrow evening, I don't think it's much to get excited about. Looks like heavy snow from about 8PM onwards (after rush hour which is great) continuing through most of the night, accumulating nicely up to 10cm in favoured spots just to then be topped off by rain from early morning with temps around 2 degrees. Melting mess for a few hours and then pretty much gone. Daytime highs around 5 degrees and and staying there for the foreseeable future with a frost night Sat>Sun.

So instead of giving a fun snow day all this is likely to do is create chaos for Friday morning's rush hour.

 

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1 minute ago, throwoff said:

06Z not looking good for Kent, though North of London could be in for some fun Thursday night. 

I never get too excited about this kind of pattern, it never seems to do well in Kent. Hopefully as we move into Feb we get some Easterly flow and a chance of a real snowfall.

Take a look in the model thread - some excitement and interest over the 7 day easterly showing up...

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1 minute ago, Nimbusman said:

Agreed Chris, NNE is the one for us here in Suffolk but anything from N to E wind direction suits Norfolk. Speaking of which the 6z pipes up with an scandi high...

 

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Awww  straight Northerly gets my goat, watching every shower cross the Suffolk border and fade, unless of course you can get a belter of a wind.

06z toying again, i do think they know somethings there, they just don't quite know what, i tend to think its more likely to see something suddenly jump out in a 120-168 period.

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58 minutes ago, Nqp15hhu said:

Any events after this one? Or should we focus on spring weather? 

Well there is some excitement in the Hunt for Cold thread with models suggesting we look to the east in early Feb. So maybe not over yet! 🤞

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