SE and East Anglia general weather discussion 07/11/2018

[Jezzer]

 

[fulham snow]

Raining in Epsom,bye snow 

[sunnijim]

8 minutes ago, Hotspur61 said:

My apologies and i am very happy for you that you got snow.I should have been a bit more specific as i did see Brighton area got a good dollop of snow last night.I just wish that this part of England was more mountainous with everywhere being at least 300m asl and then we wouldnt have these problems with margainality lol!!

No problem, just as an aside to the snowfall, the talk of a 'warm zone' last night in Kent and the Sussexes.

I drove back from London between 9pm and midnight ( two hours to travel a 15 min journey around Brighton)

The temperature was +1c the whole time until I reached the Sussex coast and then -1c.

[Uxbridge90]

5 minutes ago, Jezzer said:

 

Looks to be pepping up and dragging everything in as well

 

@Surrey What you make of it Surrey? 

Edited February 1, 2019 by Uxbridge90

[Neilsouth]

6 minutes ago, Jezzer said:

 

And again, they can't even get it right on the DAY!

 

Area of Snow... It's RAIN!

[Wimbledon88]

12 minutes ago, dubmuffin said:

Yes

You are right. It's a mixture of everything but mosty rain.

[kold weather]

5 minutes ago, sunnijim said:

No problem, just as an aside to the snowfall, the talk of a 'warm zone' last night in Kent and the Sussexes.

I drove back from London between 9pm and midnight ( two hours to travel a 15 min journey around Brighton)

The temperature was +1c the whole time until I reached the Sussex coast and then -1c.

I wonder whether the low that screwed me over also drew in some more marginal air around it's flank as itdeveloped. In a marginal situation it may have made a difference by keeping temperatures up. My temperature held at 0.6c until the cap dry slot finally broke down, then temps dropped quickly.

The coasts had heavy snow in place already which helped keep the temperature down when combined with fairly consistent snowfall.

Combined with subsidence  from The front to the north killing precipitation as it came ashore and that is a lethal combination.

Edited February 1, 2019 by kold weather

[SnowBungle]

Sitting in Wladerslade, Chatham right now waiting for a pupil to start their driving lesson. A mix of 90% rain and 10%snow is building in intensity. What snow is here is melting before my eyes. Such a shame. 

[Dami]

It's thawing here, but there is still light snow falling.

[Coopsy]

 

10 minutes ago, Jezzer said:

 

It’s def rain. I’m standing under it getting wet 

Edited February 1, 2019 by CanadianCoops

[Wimbledon88]

5 minutes ago, Neilsouth said:

And again, they can't even get it right on the DAY!

 

Area of Snow... It's RAIN!

Oh dear Peter!

Look out your window mate. That's if you are on the London area.

Its rain mate!! 

 

Edited February 1, 2019 by Wimbledon88

[sunnijim]

5 minutes ago, kold weather said:

I wonder whether the low that screwed me over also drew in some more marginal air around it's flank as it developed. In a marginal situation it may have made a difference.

The coasts had heavy snow on place already which helped keep the temperature down when combined with fairly consistent snowfall.

Combined with subsidence  from The front to the north killing precipitation as it came ashore and that is a lethal combination.

Quite possible,it seems areas to the East of Eastbourne had trouble keeping settling snow, as did areas North of Gatwick,further West along the coast and inland there were no such problems. 

[Nick F]

Pure cold icy rain here in Croydon, the damp makes it feel even colder though, thoroughly unpleasant to be outside 

[Jezzer]

Yep, light rain started in Addlestone, thoroughly miserable morning 

[alexisj9]

4 minutes ago, kold weather said:

I wonder whether the low that screwed me over also drew in some more marginal air around it's flank as it developed. In a marginal situation it may have made a difference.

The coasts had heavy snow on place already which helped keep the temperature down when combined with fairly consistent snowfall.

Combined with subsidence  from The front to the north killing precipitation as it came ashore and that is a lethal combination.

It was wet snow here till the front lifted far enough to let the SSW draw effect us. Then it turned to rain. Se was on the wrong side of the low, pretty simple really. If it stayed as a wave, would have been much better.

[weathertoski]

25 minutes ago, danm said:

Is that band coming up through London snow/rain/sleet?

Here it was rain/sleet

[kold weather]

I suspect any precipitation talking to the east of that front is going to be sleety stuff at best. Once the front does move east, providing there is something left, will probably go back to snow.

I'm doubtful however it settles, I think we have lost the surface cold required for it now. Could still cause a few rush hour issues though.

[WhiteFox]

Just now, kold weather said:

I suspect any precipitation talking to the east of that front is going to be sleety stuff at best. Once the front does move east, providing there is something left, will probably go back to snow.

I'm doubtful however it settles, I think we have lost the surface cold required for it now. Could still cause a few rush hour issues though.

Don't think it will settle. We're under an intermittent light band and it's not settling where I've cleared snow from the car.

[bluearmy]

13 minutes ago, kold weather said:

I wonder whether the low that screwed me over also drew in some more marginal air around it's flank as itdeveloped. In a marginal situation it may have made a difference by keeping temperatures up. My temperature held at 0.6c until the cap dry slot finally broke down, then temps dropped quickly.

The coasts had heavy snow in place already which helped keep the temperature down when combined with fairly consistent snowfall.

Combined with subsidence  from The front to the north killing precipitation as it came ashore and that is a lethal combination.

Chicken and egg? If the circulation doesn’t head towards the south coast then the snow stays lighter and further south .... the low has spoiled a lot of the snow in south coastal counties but extended the cover much further north dragging far larger areas into the mix ...... today seems a mess to say the least !

each model has a different solution ! Para is nuts over E Sussex and w Kent later 

Edited February 1, 2019 by bluearmy

[Coopsy]

8 minutes ago, Nick F said:

Pure cold icy rain here in Croydon, the damp makes it feel even colder though, thoroughly unpleasant to be outside 

It feels like it’s the coldest it could be without snowing. Quite depressing 

[chionomaniac]

You never know as the back edge cold digs back in....

 

LOL GFS crazy snow charts suggesting this!

 

[Jezzer]

10 minutes ago, Jezzer said:

Yep, light rain started in Addlestone, thoroughly miserable morning 

Now a sleety, snowy mix 

[onepingonly]

I went up to Butser Hill which is the high point around here where they've closed the car park without telling anyone so it's a load of cars on a single track road with no room to park or turn around even though they must know everyone will head there to sledge. Staggering stupidity. 

[Mark]

Had been just drizzle for over an hour and now it's heavier there is sleet mixed in

[kold weather]

7 minutes ago, bluearmy said:

Chicken and egg? If the circulation doesn’t head towards the south coast then the snow stays lighter and further south .... the low has spoiled a lot of the snow in south coastal counties but extended the cover much further north dragging far larger areas into the mix ...... today seems a mess to say the least !

Oh definitely it all just shifted north, though there was a clear dry subsidence slot that formed as well to the south of the main front that has sat there for the last 18hrs.

See it was a unholy combo of two things that went wrong last night. The low forming certainly didn't help but it would have usually still allowed snow to fall, albeit marginally. However when the subsidence slot set up to it's south between say 7-11pm it killed all snowfall as the band came in from the channel. 

Once I saw that setup I knew it was game over for anything decent. Though in the end it did finally break down as the LP decayed and showers broke out.

Very interesting evolution. I may do a little research into it and make a Paul S style piece of research as it seemed to be a fairly unusual thing to have occured in the way it did, locally for me anyway!

Edited February 1, 2019 by kold weather