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  • Location: Darlington
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  • Location: Darlington

    The eco-warriors are currently getting unglued and removed from a scaffolding platform in Trafalgar square

     

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    Am a bit of a loss with this debate. Firstly, because I don't get the name-calling and mudslinging, how does that help? But secondly and more importantly, I just can't understand how much more ev

    The IPBES Global Assessment on biodiversity was released yesterday at https://www.ipbes.net/ and makes grim reading. It lists climate change as an increasing factor in the state of life on our planet.

    It's amazing really how you continue to miss the point, I don't think anyone is saying climate change isn't caused by humans in some way, but it's not the sole cause, there are other factor at play, s

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    34 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    And when that does happen - humans had nothing to do with it.

    Humm, the irony seems to have been lost on you.

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    30 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    I love they way they are now abbreviated, give them so much more gravitas ...... XRers 

    I abbreviated them because I couldn't be bothered to write 'Extinction Rebellion protestors' every time.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

    They have refused to leave peacefully, so specialist police teams are getting them out the way themselves with winches 

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
    16 minutes ago, Devonian said:

    Humm, the irony seems to have been lost on you.

    I'm afraid it has, could you explain? 

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    9 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    I'm afraid it has, could you explain? 

    My reply would be how the world worked IF Tu quoque was how the world works. As it is alleging, or even pointing out, someone is a hypocrite doesn't alter whether what they say is right or not.

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    26 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

    They have refused to leave peacefully, so specialist police teams are getting them out the way themselves with winches 

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    No.

    I'm confident they have just refused to leave. If you can show where they haven't been peaceful, but instead been violent, please post any examples. I'm happy to condemn violence!

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
    2 hours ago, Devonian said:

    My reply would be how the world worked IF Tu quoque was how the world works. As it is alleging, or even pointing out, someone is a hypocrite doesn't alter whether what they say is right or not.

    You lost me well and truly now...... you give the air of someone who has lost the meaning  of the point you are trying to get across,  and instead just argue for the sake of arguing.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

    276 arrests made so far today in London

    One suspects the courts are going to be very busy in the months ahead given this is expected to go on for 2-weeks

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Judging by the what I saw on the news, most of the people arrested are from the great un-washed brigade, you know the type of people who don't have any fixed address.  So going to court is pointless for these guys, you ain't going to get anything out of them  and instead all it does is waste even more public money and time.

    Job done if your anti establishment .

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Do Climate Change Deniers' gallbladders ever run out? Such a lot of bile!

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
    7 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    Judging by the what I saw on the news, most of the people arrested are from the great un-washed brigade, you know the type of people who don't have any fixed address.  So going to court is pointless for these guys, you ain't going to get anything out of them  and instead all it does is waste even more public money and time.

    Job done if your anti establishment .

    That's grossly unfair! Some of them were teachers.

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Talking of bile, saw this woman being interviewed.  I'm guessing she thinks she's a modern day Nostradamus,  as she confidently predicted that all life on earth would be wiped out in 50yrs due to climate change. Delusional bile comes to mind.

    Forgot to say, she had chained herself to the underneath of a van while making such predictions...... you couldn't make it up.. lol

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
    1 minute ago, DAVID SNOW said:

    That's grossly unfair! Some of them were teachers.

    Key word there was MOST

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  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
    6 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

    Do Climate Change Deniers' gallbladders ever run out? Such a lot of bile!

    Who are these climate deniers 

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
    4 minutes ago, weirpig said:

    Who are these climate deniers 

    The daft thing is, climate deniers is such a silly term, Climate changes , Earth warms and cools, it always has and always will. There's no denying that!

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    13 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

    That's grossly unfair! Some of them were teachers.

    The same teachers who'll be marking some of their pupils down as "unauthorised absence", when those kids are taken on hols by parents in term time?

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  • Location: Back in Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Location: Back in Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
    15 minutes ago, weirpig said:

    Who are these climate deniers 

    i think he means climate centrists?

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  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
    20 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    Talking of bile, saw this woman being interviewed.  I'm guessing she thinks she's a modern day Nostradamus,  as she confidently predicted that all life on earth would be wiped out in 50yrs due to climate change. Delusional bile comes to mind.

    Forgot to say, she had chained herself to the underneath of a van while making such predictions...... you couldn't make it up.. lol

    Yep  you would think people would be better informed  regarding co levels  especially  if they are a member of such an organisation   no doubt the world is warming  but there is no scientist  that I'm aware of who thinks the world will end in 50 years    

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    20 minutes ago, SteveB said:

    The daft thing is, climate deniers is such a silly term, Climate changes , Earth warms and cools, it always has and always will. There's no denying that!

    I don't deny any of that. Nor do I deny that human activities (burning fossil fuels mostly) are causing climate change. Nor do I deny that this planet is being degraded - its seas over fished, forests being chopped down, animals losing habitat, insect being killed. I'm thus supportive of XR.

    Btw, I have a fixed address, I work, I'm not a pensioner - probably quite like you actually...

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
    2 minutes ago, Devonian said:

    I don't deny any of that. Nor do I deny that human activities (burning fossil fuels mostly) are causing climate change. Nor do I deny that this planet is being degraded - its seas over fished, forests being chopped down, animals losing habitat, insect being killed. I'm thus supportive of XR.

    Btw, I have a fixed address, I work, I'm not a pensioner - probably quite like you actually...

    Remove the humans to save the planet then?

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    5 minutes ago, weirpig said:

    Yep  you would think people would be better informed  regarding co levels  especially  if they are a member of such an organisation   no doubt the world is warming  but there is no scientist  that I'm aware of who thinks the world will end in 50 years    

    I agree. But then in any community you get diversity. Broadly XR get it.

    And in 50 years? I will (I'm sad to say) be surprised if the world isn't another degree plus warmer, that some animals and birds we both know well will be effectively extinct in the wild and that changes we would be shocked at will have happened to the broader environment.

    I expect attacks for such views.

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    1 minute ago, DAVID SNOW said:

    Remove the humans to save the planet then?

    No, that would be to put words in my mouth...

    I said NO such thing! And I would not think such a thing!

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  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
    3 minutes ago, Devonian said:

    I don't deny any of that. Nor do I deny that human activities (burning fossil fuels mostly) are causing climate change. Nor do I deny that this planet is being degraded - its seas over fished, forests being chopped down, animals losing habitat, insect being killed. I'm thus supportive of XR.

    Btw, I have a fixed address, I work, I'm not a pensioner - probably quite like you actually...

    Burning fossil fuels  are not mostly the cause of climate change  but they could be the reason why change is accelerating   I agree in regard to the earth being degraded   we have taken  oil from the planet for years  that has to have an affect  mass deforestation  also  is a major problem    so yeah I agree  I just think we are going about it the wrong way  

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