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Summer 2018 - Moans, Ramps, Chat etc

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Weather Guilt-Tripping - Please don't suggest people are selfish for enjoying or even looking forward to a certain weather type. Everyone has different weather preferences, but since none of us can control the weather, no-one should be made to feel guilty or foolish for liking it.

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3 hours ago, markyo said:

I have diagnosed RSAD,had it since my late twenties. Its basically near enough the same as SAD. Trust me i think of the those effected by SAD,it is awful,i know. Its more than enduring weather,much more. Hope you enjoy it though,i know many do.

Well I didn't know that. Now your hatred of summer makes more sense to me. 

Genuine question - is there a certain point when things get better for you? 

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15 minutes ago, cheese said:

Well I didn't know that. Now your hatred of summer makes more sense to me. 

Genuine question - is there a certain point when things get better for you? 

For me honestly it's more a reduction of daylight when i feel less stressed I know this sounds weird,yes the weather plays a point but it's the longer daylight hours i find hard to cope with.Sleep comes a problem and hot weather just compounds it hence my hatred of this type of weather, the having to have aircon at home,the moaning on and on about it, Sorry for that by they way,but i doubt i can ever change that bit!.  Pity the only job i've ever been good at doesn't really help at all!🤤

Your post struck a chord, the phrase "you'll live" means a lot. Without 2 very close friends(one sadly no longer with us) neither would i have been in 1998. Depression comes in so many forms,thankfully i'm still fighting it....and this blinking weather! 

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29 minutes ago, markyo said:

For me honestly it's more a reduction of daylight when i feel less stressed I know this sounds weird,yes the weather plays a point but it's the longer daylight hours i find hard to cope with.Sleep comes a problem and hot weather just compounds it hence my hatred of this type of weather, the having to have aircon at home,the moaning on and on about it, Sorry for that by they way,but i doubt i can ever change that bit!.  Pity the only job i've ever been good at doesn't really help at all!🤤

Your post struck a chord, the phrase "you'll live" means a lot. Without 2 very close friends(one sadly no longer with us) neither would i have been in 1998. Depression comes in so many forms,thankfully i'm still fighting it....and this blinking weather! 

My mum suffers from depression so I understand what you're saying, it's not something you get over. The year is flying by anyway so the shorter days will be here before you know it.

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1 hour ago, markyo said:

For me honestly it's more a reduction of daylight when i feel less stressed I know this sounds weird,yes the weather plays a point but it's the longer daylight hours i find hard to cope with.Sleep comes a problem and hot weather just compounds it hence my hatred of this type of weather, the having to have aircon at home,the moaning on and on about it, Sorry for that by they way,but i doubt i can ever change that bit!.  Pity the only job i've ever been good at doesn't really help at all!🤤

Your post struck a chord, the phrase "you'll live" means a lot. Without 2 very close friends(one sadly no longer with us) neither would i have been in 1998. Depression comes in so many forms,thankfully i'm still fighting it....and this blinking weather! 

It’s amazing how the weather can affect our moods so strongly. I do sometimes envy those who seem to blithely go through life, without a care for the weather. I find winter very depressing and hard work in the UK, so I always await summer eagerly and hope for as much sunshine as possible. It does wonders for my wellbeing, but when summer is cloudy and windy, I feel like utter rubbish and am miserable and moody.

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I personally find that good weather makes me happy, but poor weather doesn't necessarily make me unhappy. Long periods of dull weather like March/early April this year were quite trying, but I think more from a 'non weather' point of view than the fact it was cloudy so often. I'm fortunate enough to be able to deal with heat no problem, and most degrees of cold - I love the cold in winter but I think I prefer the heat in summer.

I do really feel for SAD sufferers though, and anybody who has to put up with a seasonal condition of any sort like hay fever. Also didn't realise RSAD was even a thing - you learn something new every day!

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For me it's more about humidity and 25C+ heat which means i don't tend to mind it in May/June but tend to strongly prefer a 2017 style collapse. 

The past 2-3 weeks before yesterday were about as far as i like to go, it had started to feel a bit humid more or often than not.

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Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top and the worst at the bottom 

1976 301
1995 298
2018 279 (up to 17th July)
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
2013 260 
1947 255
1933 251
1901 249
1921 249
2003 247
1925 246
2006 246
1996 245
1935 243 
2014 242
1994 240
1934 238
1940 238
1941 236
1970 235
1969 234
1973 234
1999 234
1997 232
1990 229
1917 228
1926 227
2005 224
1905 223
1932 223
1945 223
1967 223
1977 223
1914 222
1992 222
1908 220
1960 217
1950 216
1957 216
1968 215
1906 214
1942 214
1937 213
1939 213
1904 212
1929 211
2001 211
1903 209
1943 209
1991 207
1913 205
1971 205
1919 203
1961 203
1982 203
1951 201
1918 200
1944 200
2002 200
1930 199
1974 199
1979 199
1952 198
2000 198
1928 197
1962 197
1964 197
2004 197
1915 196
1981 196
1902 195
1963 194
1993 194
2009 194
1953 193
1966 192
1998 192
2015 192
2017 192
1988 191
2010 191
1910 190
1936 190
2016 189
1965 189
1986 189
1916 188

186<------------if the rest of summer 2018 returns zero sunshine, mean max of 15C and rain everyday

1972 185
1958 184
1985 180
2011 179
1922 178
1938 177
1948 176
1927 175
1920 174
1923 174
2007 174
1931 173
1978 173
1980 173
1909 171
1946 170
1987 169
2008 168
2012 164
1924 158
1912 156
1956 155
1907 147
1954 143

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Level 2 heatwave alert issued for all regions in England except the north west and north east

Current watch level: Level 2 - Alert and Readiness

Issued at: 09:11 on Wed 18 Jul 2018

There is a 60 % probability of heatwave conditions between 0000 on Friday and 0000 on Sunday in parts of England.

It will become increasingly humid through the end of this week with very warm nights across much of England. South Yorkshire, the Southeast, London, East Midlands and parts of West Midlands, eastern parts of the Southwest, and East Anglia, are likely to see good periods of sunshine, contributing to hot daytime temperatures. As a result thresholds are likely to be just met in these areas. There is a very low risk of thunderstorms developing in the south and east. Northern areas are likely to be somewhat cloudier, with sunny intervals and occasional showers possible Friday and Saturday, and although it will still be very warm in sunnier intervals in these areas, thresholds are unlikely to be met. This alert may be extended into Sunday and Monday, with the areas included being kept under review.

An update will be issued when the alert level changes in any region. Alerts are issued once a day by 0900 if required and are not subject to amendment in between standard issue times. Note that the details of the forecast weather are valid at the time of issue but may change over the period that an alert remains in force. These details will not be updated here unless the alert level also changes, the latest forecast details can be obtained at the following link: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/#?tab=map

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/heat-health/#?tab=heatHealth

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Friday is looking like a potential stinker of a day here, really hope any rain fizzles out before getting this far, or at least holds off until the evening.

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Best summer I've ever experienced in the UK thus far, endless sunshine, comfortable t-shirt warmth pretty much since mid-may and Mediterranean style yellow grass, been amazing for doing outdoor activities, no sign of it ending either.

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1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:

GFS 12z oh so close to 100f next week

 

But not in Darlington....

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12 minutes ago, Mokidugway said:

Baked southerners 🤣

If it gets that hot I shall lay in my pool in the garden until it passes.:D

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1 minute ago, DAVID SNOW said:

If it gets that hot I shall lay in my pool in the garden until it passes.:D

Ok then stewed  southerners 😁

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3 minutes ago, Mokidugway said:

Ok then stewed  southerners 😁

lol, probably.

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Did anyone see this summer coming? Its reminding me a bit like winter 09/10 - a prolonged cold winter that never brought any real mild weather at all, surprised many.. but the ominous very wet mild November was perhaps a sign something unusual was about to happen.

This year we had the odd end Feb/early march period, and the extreme easterlies - again anomalous and a sign perhaps things not normal this year. Indeed since then the atlantic has been in almighty slumber, 5 months now.. 

Rationale / reasoning for this summer from 'experts' would be welcomed, effect of SSW, la nina background state, now moving into El Nino, the cold SST's to our NW,,, what is causing it? 

Big question - when will it break, any signs emerging of a change... it will come.

 

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2 hours ago, DAVID SNOW said:

But not in Darlington....

And not here thank god. 

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3 hours ago, DAVID SNOW said:

But not in Darlington....

Fine by me

Mid to upper 20s us just nice

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I don't think I can ever recall seeing the grass and vegetation quite so scorched and tinder dry. Personally, I'm enjoying it and want to see how long it can go on. Even the nights have not been that oppressive. It does make me wonder what will happen when the rain finally does come because the ground is rock hard and impermeable.

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11 hours ago, damianslaw said:

Did anyone see this summer coming? Its reminding me a bit like winter 09/10 - a prolonged cold winter that never brought any real mild weather at all, surprised many.. but the ominous very wet mild November was perhaps a sign something unusual was about to happen.

This year we had the odd end Feb/early march period, and the extreme easterlies - again anomalous and a sign perhaps things not normal this year. Indeed since then the atlantic has been in almighty slumber, 5 months now.. 

Rationale / reasoning for this summer from 'experts' would be welcomed, effect of SSW, la nina background state, now moving into El Nino, the cold SST's to our NW,,, what is causing it? 

Big question - when will it break, any signs emerging of a change... it will come.

 

I'm by no means an expert at all - but I'm convinced the major SSW is still having after effects felt and allowing for mid latitude blocking. Polar heights have also been anomalously low with the polar jet wrapped into quite a tight band and keeping the cooler air more bottled up than normal - bit of a chicken and egg situation.

I didn't see it coming initially, but once the big heat started to appear in April and May then I was more favouring something warmer and drier than not.....although not quite to this extent. As the stats show, it's been the driest first half of summer on record, and just a fraction (0.1c) off the warmest in 1976. It's been mad. 

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11 hours ago, damianslaw said:

Did anyone see this summer coming? Its reminding me a bit like winter 09/10 - a prolonged cold winter that never brought any real mild weather at all, surprised many.. but the ominous very wet mild November was perhaps a sign something unusual was about to happen.

This year we had the odd end Feb/early march period, and the extreme easterlies - again anomalous and a sign perhaps things not normal this year. Indeed since then the atlantic has been in almighty slumber, 5 months now.. 

Rationale / reasoning for this summer from 'experts' would be welcomed, effect of SSW, la nina background state, now moving into El Nino, the cold SST's to our NW,,, what is causing it? 

Big question - when will it break, any signs emerging of a change... it will come.

 

Perhaps we should have seen a summer like this coming. We have been experiencing extreme periods for a good few years now, it did seem to quieten somewhat 2015-17 although even then November-December 2015, September 2016, March 2017 as examples occurred.

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