South West and Central Southern England Regional Weather Discussion 22/02/2018 Onwards

[Wilxy]

1 minute ago, Ben Sainsbury said:

Are you sure? Surface temperatures are currently -3/-4'c.

Just wen't out and its like dust not soft flakes at all, and its -2.7C 90% DP -4C

[EllyTech]

Just now, feb1991blizzard said:

Round 2 for you next week????

FI, FI !  

[CheesepuffScott]

Just now, feb1991blizzard said:

Round 2 for you next week????

Oh my God, is it too early to be thinking about next week? 

[jtay]

6 minutes ago, jy said:

Err Indoors is out there somewhere,bus trapped,no calls,car buried near home.....shes left me hasn't she lol

Do you know where the bus is jy? On the A338?

 

[chris55]

3 minutes ago, tomjwlx said:

turning to sleet here now

Are you sure ?

[Uncle_Barty]

29 minutes ago, Alderc said:

Temperature rising rapidly now! -3.0 to -1.0c in twenty minutes in the car.

temps holding steady here at -2.6 here in Springbourne.

[TropicThunder]

Easily the best snow event here since December 1st 2010, and still with the potential to beat that, must be something about the first of the month!

Enjoy this peeps but take care as it really is treacherous out there and the worst is yet to come.

[egret]

2 hours ago, frogesque said:

Put this in the Scotty thread but worth a mention here for you guys.

Full moon is tomorrow (2nd.) with highest spring tides a day or so later. There could be a significant storm surge on top of large waves and high tides.

Please, please stay safe on the coast and don't do anything stupid. A large wave full of gravel and cobbles is like a cement mixer and if you get caught out or swept into the sea there is risk of serious injury or loss of life.

Have fun but be careful and take heed of police or coastguard warnings. 

 

I've just come back from playing toboggans and training the dogs to drag the toboggan uphill! (no I will never grow up!) I would say a genuine 3 cm overall depth with 20 to 30cm in the drifts. On the way back there was freezing drizzle blowing in the wind and stinging my face. The air temperature now is close to thawing so I am slightly worried what we shall see in the morning. May have to drive up to the downs to get the ice and proper toboggan runs down may favourite N facing road (Bulbarrow). Almost tempted to head up there later tonight if it starts to re-freeze as I am sure the ground temperatures are good.

Hardly any traffic on the A35 and it is still packed snow not slush. 

[mrsmall]

1 minute ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Round 2 for you next week????

Hope not. My water pipes are frozen I’ve got snow getting in my loft. Fed up already :-) 

[Wilxy]

1 minute ago, chris55 said:

Are you sure ?

The flakes are like ice?

[dec10snow]

Wow this is just insane. I made it home from work but it was ridiculous, not even any lanes on the motorway were clear!! Probably have about 10cm or so? Haven’t measured it though. I LOVE IT

[EllyTech]

3 minutes ago, chris55 said:

Some really heavy stuff coming north on the met office app!!!

perhaps the red alert could extend a little east??

Hi Chris, waiting for more intense snowfall here. Now that the Amber is extended I think the MetO might see the low fizzling out further North and East so, we might be in with a chance of deeper deposits - do you think?

[feb1991blizzard]

Just now, mrsmall said:

Hope not. My water pipes are frozen I’ve got snow getting in my loft. Fed up already :-) 

Send it up North to us then - I will gladly take another tonking - wish we could just have this as our normal climate - all the year round!!!

[jtay]

10 minutes ago, jy said:

Err Indoors is out there somewhere,bus trapped,no calls,car buried near home.....shes left me hasn't she lol

I can just about see the lights of the cars going north and south slowly. Just north of Downton.

[Jason74]

What a cracking day. Woke to a lovely overnight covering and some light snow still falling up until around 9am. Then the proper event started around midday with the PPN gradually gaining in intensity throughout the day. Feel happy now heading into the spring. 

Edited March 1, 2018 by Jason74

[Skullzrulerz]

Is there any more snow forecasted for Cornwall ?

[mrsmall]

3 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:

Send it up North to us then - I will gladly take another tonking - wish we could just have this as our normal climate - all the year round!!!

And our defender took a dislike to clutch oil today so I had to drive clutchless in a car with a flywheel made of lead so ruddy hard to rev match :-(

 

happy days tomorrow and the weekend. Trail run and sledging with the kiddiewinkles. 

Edited March 1, 2018 by mrsmall

[Steve Caiels]

8 minutes ago, EllyTech said:

Wait, I do see a small hole of sleet over you on radar. You crystals might well be freezing drizzle.

It's diamond dust now I think, but pretty sure it was wet in the air earlier on.

[SNOW CRYSTAL]

36 minutes ago, Jace said:

I have only seen freezing rain once nearly thirty years ago and it is terrifying! 

I went to Canada in 1998 6 months after a severe ice storm,  the land was devastated. Mile upon mile of trees broken in half, power pylons still down with temporary fixes, sign posts down etc, wildlife lost. Very sad.

[Southern Storm]

It's been a memorable day hear in Christchurch, the kids got to see proper snow for the first time, snow is definitely turning to sleet/rain now though!

Edited March 1, 2018 by Christchurch storm nut

[Mapantz]

I had to take these while holding a window open and balancing my torch lol

 

[The Giant Daddy Jackpot]

18 minutes ago, Skullzrulerz said:

Its still snowing here at st Austell

And that is a rarity!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Barmada_Casten said:

Can anyone shed any light as to why barnstaple is not getting anything. Will we get anything at all today? 

Don't worry.  here's an update:

     NW radar - screenshot at 1715                                 Live radar UK                                      Live radar France                                    Infra red satellite                                      Standard satellite

            

Surely you've got some snow now? Have you looked out of the window  (sorry - not nice). Now, nobody should be overly concerned (just yet) about the green (wet snow/sleet/rain mix) and the blue (rain) on the NetWeather screen shot. The green is actually showing up over Exmouth now and I can assure you that we're having heavy snow and the temp is sub -4c. What we have is the less cold air (close to 0 c or just above) climbing over the dense cold surface air. Radars peer through these layers and pick up some rain or sleet at a high level and they are pretty inaccurate over sea areas anyway. Even if it is raining up there (which I doubt at this stage), we would either get freezing rain (possibly a dramatic ice storm) which would present some other serious dangers (I've posted about the 48 hour January 1940 event earlier this week on here and at length on the MOD last week which started and ended with a blizzard) it is very likely to turn back to snow again as the heaviest precipitation arrives very soon. Let's put everyone on here who, like me, lives on the south coast, on "freezing rain" watch. If the NW radar does pick up on freezing rain it should show up in a dark purple or mauve colour, The Meteoceil (France) radar shows simple snow or rain colours . Where NW has that green, Meteoceil have red or now white colours which shows very heavy snow. For those further east, see how that area coming out of north France is expanding. The extreme east of Kent, Essex , Suffolk and Norfolk should all be in line soon. Those purple, pink and even the white colours on the infra red satellite are the areas of much thicker cloud and usually contain the much heavier precipitation. When that reaches the Channel it will provide even great instability. Even if the snow turned to freezing rain, it would almost certainly turn back to extremely heavy snow. as it engages our deep cold block. Those darker colours are taking a little longer than expected to arrive - currently around Nantes and through Britanny. Perhaps another hour or so until we see the dramatic expansion of the dark red and white colours on the Meteoceil radar - it's already getting pretty dramatic out there in the Channel.

UK:              Live temps                                           GIF - last 24 hours                                     Dew Point temps                                   Wind chill temps                                        Wind direction

         

France:         Live temps                                           GIF - last 24 hours                                    Dew Point temps                                    Wind chill temps                                Wind direction & strength

         

The south-west is warming up to -3c   When viewing the GIF 24 hour temp changes you need to bear in mind the min/max  range. Less cold air has been making more northward progress this afternoon but there are still some sub zero temps in north-west France. The deep surface cold is still intact there (just) and it is only the warmer Channel (6c to 8c) that moderates that temp. Then in the UK we still have deep surface cold and the upper temps are not as extreme as they were last night.  The winds around Emma are interesting! West in south-west Biscay and southerly in south-west France but easterly further north and across the UK. This means that even on the south coast, the surface air is still being sourced from around Belgium (eastwards) and still mostly coming over land with little moderation from the sea - this should prevent the slightly less cold air moving in until the winds veer to a more southerly quarter. Finally the pressure - our faithful Scandi HP is still there in situ but has declined . it'll be fascinating if it can hold on and forces Emma to stop moving northwards - the ideal scenario will be for Emma to drift east and that will enhance the easterly and ensure that the cold spell is prolonged for those of us that want that. I would love some clear sunny skies after the blizzard but we may still get a thaw and a slushy mess.

GEFS 12z T+0 1300 Mar 1st 850 Temps                 Live Euro Pressure                        GIF - last 24 hours Euro Pressure    

        

STOP PRESS: THE MET O HAVE JUST EXTENDED THE AMBER WEATHER WARNING TO AS FAR AS LONDON. WHEN WILL THEY EXTEND THE RED WARNING? SURELY VERY SOON (OVERDUE IMHO).

Finally, I have near "white out" conditions now. The proper blizzards is well underway. This is the less cold air climbing over our deep surface cold. A classic undercut as in Feb '78.  Enjoy   David

Edited March 1, 2018 by Guest
Correct typos and check charts

[SizzlingHeat]

Still snow but very light although radar showing heavy? Confused. 

[matt111]

Had a bit of a lull for a while but it’s snowing quite heavily again now. Don’t know the depth but it’s decent I know that’s much.