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northwestsnow

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
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26 minutes ago, Sn0wmad79 said:

We had heavy snow earlier tonight but that went slushy and now there is ice every where. Dreading the moped journey home later.

Looking at the rain today radar there is a massive front heading quickly this way from SW over the Welsh mountains. That's got to be more snow with my name on it ?

Looks like its going to miss us to the south :(

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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Down to 2.5°C here now as the offshore wind kicks in. Already much lower than the Met thought it would go  of course. Still looking good for in a few hours. 

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northwestsnow

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
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8 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Down to 2.5°C here now as the offshore wind kicks in. Already much lower than the Met thought it would go  of course. Still looking good for in a few hours. 

Looks to be slipping to our south to me chris?

What time you reckon it will move into the region?

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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8 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:

Looks to be slipping to our south to me chris?

What time you reckon it will move into the region?

About 8:00 unless the forecast has gone wrong. 

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northwestsnow

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
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3 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

About 8:00 unless the forecast has gone wrong. 

Gfs has pos dew points later this morning...

Tomorrow however it keeps dews negative until mid afternoon imby meaning a good 5or6 hours of snow..fun!!

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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2 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:

Gfs has pos dew points later this morning...

Tomorrow however it keeps dews negative until mid afternoon imby meaning a good 5or6 hours of snow..fun!!

 If it has overestimated surface temperatures which it has at least for me, then it has likely done the same with the dewpoint so let’s wait and see about today. Yes, looking interesting for a spell of snow perhaps followed by ice pellets for a time on Sunday. 

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
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Painful watching this precipitation edging across. Metoffice forecast mentions potential accumulations over Southern Pennines, but I wonder whether it will actually slip to the South?

 

 

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itsnowjoke

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  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
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7 hours ago, Mokidugway said:

My Fitzroy covered in snow , sunny  here and 30c , wall complete :D

Really TMI you should not have your Fitzroy out what were you doing with it mixing cement for your wall:rofl:

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More Runs Needed

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  • Location: Mid-Lincolnshire 10m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Extremes, Snow, Winter, Summer storms after a 'heatwave'
  • Location: Mid-Lincolnshire 10m asl
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Doesn't anyone find the thicknesses are predicted too high for tomorrow? 

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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4 minutes ago, Dkeane3 said:

Doesn't anyone find the thicknesses are predicted too high for tomorrow? 

 Doesn’t matter so much in this set up. 

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
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Man Airport TAF suggesting possible rain or snow between 09:00 and 14:00 today.

Liverpool Airport TAF is the same.

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
Posted (edited)

Just  an observation on today: 850s are actually lower than the 10th Dec when we  had slider-gate so if the surface was just a little colder there would be no marginality problems at all.

If the precipitation is heavy enough today then evaporative cooling will be effective as winds are light and 850s are cold. 

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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4 minutes ago, Dexter said:

Man Airport TAF suggesting possible rain or snow between 09:00 and 14:00 today.

Liverpool Airport TAF is the same.

 Just about to say that, unchanged from last night. 

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
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Question for someone who knows more about the airport TAFs. I've never seen them include sleet. Does rain,snow actually mean sleet rather than rain or snow?

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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13 minutes ago, Dexter said:

Question for someone who knows more about the airport TAFs. I've never seen them include sleet. Does rain,snow actually mean sleet rather than rain or snow?

Yes. That’s what sleet is anyway, a mixture of both. :-)  

there is a slight ambiguity I feel sometimes. 

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SP1986

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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It is raining lightly. Almost no wind as well.

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severe snowstorm

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  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frosty nights, thunderstorms and the odd gale
  • Location: Near Northwich, Cheshire, 75m asl
Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Yes. That’s what sleet is anyway. 

Well yes, rain and snow together would be sleet, but rain or snow is a different expression and is not sleet and can mean periods of rain and periods of snow, so I was just wondering which is the correct interpretation when stated in the TAFs.

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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RASN is sleet on the TAF yes

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Chris.R

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Dexter said:

Well yes, rain and snow together would be sleet, but rain or snow is a different expression and is not sleet and can mean periods of rain and periods of snow, so I was just wondering which is the correct interpretation when stated in the TAFs.

 I think it is quite ambiguous. I don’t know for certain.  I think it’s probably sleet though as SP says

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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Here currently the temperature is 2.1C dewpoint is 1.7C with light rain

 

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  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - snow, Irish sea convection. Summer - thunderstorms, hot sunny days
  • Location: Pemberton, Wigan, 54 M ASL. 53.53,-2.67
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8 minutes ago, SP1986 said:

It is raining lightly. Almost no wind as well.

What’s your temp?

Edit thanks

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