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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

just wondered how this works. apparently, of someone reports a post, its hidden until reviewed by a mod. i've had two posts 'robo-modded' which were just humorous posts in the mod thread. if a moderator thought they were 'off topic' or just 'banter' then fair enough but there has been no feedback as to why. bearing in mind, several moderators were online at the time and either didnt see my posts or deemed them suitable. 

 

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

It's an experimental system we're running with a small group of members. We are trying to get back to anyone who's posts are hidden but with it being so busy of late, it's been tricky to keep up. 

In terms of your posts, you said it yourself really - if they're more banter than model discussion, then they're more likely to be better suited to the banter thread. One part of this experiment is testing people's thresholds in terms of off topicness etc as different people see things in different ways, and of course a moderator being online doesn't mean they necessarily read your post.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
3 minutes ago, Paul said:

It's an experimental system we're running with a small group of members. We are trying to get back to everyone who's posts are hidden but with it being so busy of late, it's been tricky to keep up. 

In terms of your posts, you said it yourself really - if they're more banter than model discussion, then they're more likely to be better suited to the banter thread. One part of this experiment is testing people's thresholds in terms of off topicness etc as different people see things in different ways, and of course a moderator being online doesn't mean they necessarily read your post.

to be fair, my posts were in the spirit of the model thread and you've said yourself that posts have been allowed to keep it flowing. all things considered, it is a written conversation regarding a particular subject, involving many people with differing views. if we police it too strictly, it becomes boring. my particular posts are not really the issue, if a moderator feels they are not appropriate then they have the authority to delete them and i respect that.  its the fact that someone may take their own personal issue with someone else's posts, which consequently are hidden, possibly undeservedly, then not dealt with by mods. 

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

If that were to occur then the team would deal with it. The reports/your posts were reviewed, and were left hidden as they were quite off topic, all that didn't happen is that you didn't get a message to confirm. 

What I would say is that there were many hours between the posts being made and the report, and should that happen again the posts wouldn't be auto-hidden since they'd been on the forum some time and hadn't created an issue. This experiment just has a handful of members taking part, with a view to learning more about how a community lead, semi-automated system may work, and so we're closely monitoring how things are going, and have limits on the number of posts which can be hidden etc. 

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

fair enough but with a reporting system in place and moderators in place, is it really necessary? after all, its worked so far, people know the limits and if they are overstepped then posts are deleted. we all self moderate to a point and unless a post is offensive and i understand we need to keep the threads 'on topic' is it really neccessary to be so strict and find other methods of moderation? after all, we are discussing the weather, not deciding whether to go to war with north korea. i've been a member for over 7 years and very much enjoyed my time on here. nothing much has changed up to now and as the saying goes- "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

It's not a case of 'being strict' and looking to tighten up in terms of rules etc. It's a case of trialling something a bit different to see what the benefits of involving more people in the smooth running of the community may be. 

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" only makes sense to a point, as if you never try to make things better you tend to stand still at best. I think pretty much any time we change something, someone brings up that phrase!

It may be that beyond the trial we don't carry anything like this forward, it may be we extend and tweak the trial and eventually roll something out. But that'll only happen if we feel it'll be a benefit to the community, and the aim certainly isn't to get crazy strict or anything like that.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

i'm all for improving the forum if improvements can be made - emoji's or tweaking communication methods etc, like the 'sticky notes'. however, i think we all get along just fine as it is, without changing the moderating methods.

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

The moderating methods have always evolved, in the early days the reports system wasn't available for instance, and we didn't have the warning system or the ability to pre-moderate posts, etc etc. 

In terms of this trial, it's been running about a month now, and we're learning as we go - I don't think there's any harm in trying to improve things by trying stuff out. If it works out and turns into something that benefits the community then great, if not then we've at least had a look. 

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  • Location: Sunderland
  • Weather Preferences: Hot Summer, Snowy winter and thunderstorms all year round!
  • Location: Sunderland
17 hours ago, bobbydog said:

fair enough, see how it goes but personally i think its fine how it is.:)

I was robo-mod'd as well BD.....certainly wasn't volunteered into this project so I daresay you and I are classed as 'naughty boys'....that'll teach us to have a sense of humour ...lol

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
22 minutes ago, ajpoolshark said:

I was robo-mod'd as well BD.....certainly wasn't volunteered into this project so I daresay you and I are classed as 'naughty boys'....that'll teach us to have a sense of humour ...lol

Everyone is subject to the robomod, nothing to do with anyone being on a naughty list :D

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

What happens when someone reports a post just because he/she happens to disagree with its content? Does it just vanish into the ether - like Spurs' +ive goal difference?!:D

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
23 minutes ago, ajpoolshark said:

I was robo-mod'd as well BD.....certainly wasn't volunteered into this project so I daresay you and I are classed as 'naughty boys'....that'll teach us to have a sense of humour ...lol

lol.

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
8 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

What happens when someone reports a post just because he/she happens to disagree with its content? Does it just vanish into the ether - like Spurs' +ive goal difference?!:D

No the reported/hidden posts are checked by the team, If this was to be the case the said post would be put back and those type of reporters will never be trusted again.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
4 minutes ago, Polar Maritime said:

No the reported/hidden posts are checked by the team, If this was to be the case the said post would be put back.

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

I understand Pete ☺

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  • Location: Sunderland
  • Weather Preferences: Hot Summer, Snowy winter and thunderstorms all year round!
  • Location: Sunderland

blimey Pete, that's the most sense you talked in quite a while :bomb::laugh:

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  • Location: Sunderland
  • Weather Preferences: Hot Summer, Snowy winter and thunderstorms all year round!
  • Location: Sunderland
14 minutes ago, Nick L said:

Everyone is subject to the robomod, nothing to do with anyone being on a naughty list :D

ah, must have read Paul's post wrong, I thought it said a small group of members were being used in the trial?

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

I wish I'd done what I originally intended...AFFIRMATIVE!

That'll teach me!:fool:

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
1 minute ago, ajpoolshark said:

ah, must have read Paul's post wrong, I thought it said a small group of members were being used in the trial?

its a small number of testers not a small number of naughty guinea-pigs. obviously they only asked sensible people... :crazy:

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire

Robo-mod...hmmm... Post disappears and never comes back, even if it's within the spirit of the discourse- as @bobbydog has pointed out. Yet the original post you are replying to often remains in all its glory.

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