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I was looking at the snow cover charts and the whole world down to the 45 degrees latitude seems to be covered with snow, except for Europe but on the pacific coast of North America  there is plenty of snow. Don't they get warm pacific westerlies there? 

 

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4 hours ago, ArHu3 said:

I was looking at the snow cover charts and the whole world down to the 45 degrees latitude seems to be covered with snow, except for Europe but on the pacific coast of North America  there is plenty of snow. Don't they get warm pacific westerlies there? 

 

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Cos its November ;-)

 

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3 minutes ago, jvenge said:

Cos its November ;-)

 

It's november too on Canada's pacific coast but there is snow up to such low latitudes that it would be the equivalent of Southern France /northern Spain here in Europe. Don't they get warm pacific westerlies there? 

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Just now, ArHu3 said:

It's november too on Canada's pacific coast but there is snow up to such low latitudes that it would be the equivalent of Southern France /northern Spain here in Europe. Don't they get warm pacific westerlies there? 

Gulf stream. 

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I think they have had a lot of Aleutian ridging which has restricted onshore flows. Suspect the strip close to the coast is not snow covered 

In any case, the Pacific at that latitude is a lot cooler than the Atlantic as per previous post - gulf stream

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On 11/23/2017 at 15:52, bluearmy said:

In any case, the Pacific at that latitude is a lot cooler than the Atlantic as per previous post - gulf stream

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This combined with the difference in storm tracks which penetrate further north and east over the Atlantic as shown in this ERA chart -

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and the presence of the mighty Rocky mountains which while influencing storm tracks also help both surface cold air pooling and obviously altitude for snow cover.

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Europe is so snowless because the weather gods hate us. And if you believe the hysteria... because mankind is evil and artificially heating the planet up.  (debate for another thread ;-p)

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On ‎23‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 06:04, ArHu3 said:

I was looking at the snow cover charts and the whole world down to the 45 degrees latitude seems to be covered with snow, except for Europe but on the pacific coast of North America  there is plenty of snow. Don't they get warm pacific westerlies there? 

 

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What kind of chart do you expect in the first hours of Winter?  

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1 hour ago, - 40*C said:

What kind of chart do you expect in the first hours of Winter?  

Regions at a much lower latitude on the west coast of North America are covered in snow, at an equivalent latitude would be snow in la Rochelle or Bordeaux 

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Just checked recent weather data for Vancouver Airport and there hasn't been a frost since 7th November (https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/CYVR/2017/11/4/MonthlyHistory.html?req_city=&req_state=&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo=), so I very much doubt they've had lying snow there since then.

High mountains come very close to the coast in the Pacific Northwest, so I think the snow map is giving the false impression that there is snow right on the coast when there isn't.

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Is the UK covered in snow.:oops:

Have to see what tomorrow`s snow chart shows,this is yesterday`s.

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I`ve just found this link,this must be from a couple of days ago.

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On 11/12/2017 at 13:01, Snowyowl9 said:

I`ve just found this link,this must be from a couple of days ago.

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It’s inaccurate most of Midlands covered but not the SE and most of Central Southern England.

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2 minutes ago, Daniel* said:

It’s inaccurate most of Midlands covered but not the SE and most of Central Southern England.

Its 2 days behind though.

Be interesting to see what today looks like.

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1 minute ago, Snowyowl9 said:

Its 2 days behind though.

Be interesting to see what today looks like.

I know that irrespective snow cover has not been that widespread - it’s wrong.

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Snowed in London I saw on the news.

Whatever... its a guide,friday`s was accurate.

Europe could get colder anyway if this happens.

How a Wayward Arctic Current Could Cool the Climate in Europe

The Beaufort Gyre, a key Arctic Ocean current, is acting strangely. Scientists say it may be on the verge of discharging a huge amount of ice and cold freshwater that could kick off a period of lower temperatures in northern Europe.

http://e360.yale.edu/features/how-a-wayward-arctic-current-could-cool-the-climate-in-europe?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+YaleEnvironment360+(Yale+Environment+360)

 

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