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  • Location: Coggeshall, Nr Colchester, Essex
  • Location: Coggeshall, Nr Colchester, Essex

I just get the feeling its going to be one of those frustrating situations over the next few days where when it's cold enough for snow i.e. Friday and Saturday it will be dry and when there's lots of precipitation around, i.e. Sunday/Monday it will be just slightly too warm.

I'm in the yellow warning area, just, and the track of the low on Sunday is still changing so you never know.

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  • Location: Boxley - Kent 133.9 m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny Days and a little Snow.
  • Location: Boxley - Kent 133.9 m ASL

If we could bank some of charts and latest data as per the convos above I would because somewhere in our thread would get buried in snow and I'm not greedy and my loss could be another's gain :diablo:

 

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  • Location: Boxley - Kent 133.9 m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny Days and a little Snow.
  • Location: Boxley - Kent 133.9 m ASL
Just now, JennyJane1 said:

I am confused now, the main thread shows snow over me by 6am tomorrow.I have made a nice vegetable stew.

I'm sure the stew will be ready by 6am :rofl:

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  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Frosty Mornings
  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL

Think my 40 mile commute maybe in danger Monday....oh well :)

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  • Location: Shirley, Croydon, Greater London
  • Location: Shirley, Croydon, Greater London

Check out the BBC weather forecast and you will be surprised what is being shown  on Friday......SNOW  :D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09hbkkk/weather-for-the-week-ahead-07122017

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  • Location: Garvestone, Norfolk
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine. And storms
  • Location: Garvestone, Norfolk

Still in two minds whether to risk driving up to Grimsby on Saturday, I mean it could all look fine Sat morning and then Sunday I find myself stuck oop norf. Don't fancy coming home backwards over the Wolds :nonono:

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  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Varied and not extreme.
  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
1 hour ago, James Oliver said:

Could someone explain this chart to me in idiot terms. I'm trying to teach myself using the internet....

I'm new and trying...

sunday.png

Given that no-one else has replied...you're missing an indication of the temperatures at a pressure height of 850hPa represented by the shading.  Ground level is taken as an average of 1000hPa (1000milibars or 1 bar/1 atmosphere), and, as pressure decreases with altitude, so does the figure of each pressure height level.  Of course, surface pressure isn't alays 1000hPa; in deep areas of low pressure it can get down to 950hPa, and, under high pressure areas, it can be 1030hPa, so each pressure height will vary as well - a given pressure height will be closer to th ground when there's low pressure as the atmosphere occupies a slightly shallower layer than under high pressure; this is what is meant in model discussions when people refer to lower heights.  This then means that, under high pressure, the opposite is the case - a given pressure height is further from the ground.  As an average, 850hPa is around 1500 metres (5000 feet) above sea level.  Colder air at a given pressure height suggests low pressure (heights are lower), whereas warmer temperatures suggest high pressure (there is an exception in Greenland and Siberia in winter where surface cold air causes a surface high which is colder than low pressure would be).  Otherwise, the lines are simply isobars as you'd find on a weather forecast chart.

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  • Location: West London
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: West London

Met Office currently has the snow line around Watford (North London), hoping tomorrrows outputs bring that down 10-15 miles south to give many of us a chance..

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
4 minutes ago, Swave Snow said:

Gritters are out in Hendon tonight that NW London 

I won't know they never grit aycliffe. If it snows or gets very icy the school is closed, 

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  • Location: Dover Kent 10m asl/ Leeds W Yorks 120m asl
  • Location: Dover Kent 10m asl/ Leeds W Yorks 120m asl
1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

I won't know they never grit aycliffe. If it snow the school is closed, or very icy.

Aycliffe, Dover?

I'm Dover town centre.

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
1 minute ago, James Oliver said:

Aycliffe, Dover?

I'm Dover town centre.

Yep. Nice to meet you.

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  • Location: North West of Ireland
  • Location: North West of Ireland
13 hours ago, Optimistic said:

 Wendover Woods (highest point in the Chiltern) usually get some snow in similar setups. It should be half an hour drive once you reach the A41 if you live in north west london. Obviously no guarantee but it is a nice forest even if no snow is foud there. I will keep you updated about this during the next few days with regard to any snow cover in the Chilterns area. 

Thanks for your reply. I am always interested in discovering new places, and i like forests, so even if it does not snow it will be a nice day out! Thanks again.

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  • Location: Dover Kent 10m asl/ Leeds W Yorks 120m asl
  • Location: Dover Kent 10m asl/ Leeds W Yorks 120m asl
12 minutes ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

Given that no-one else has replied...you're missing an indication of the temperatures at a pressure height of 850hPa represented by the shading.  Ground level is taken as an average of 1000hPa (1000milibars or 1 bar/1 atmosphere), and, as pressure decreases with altitude, so does the figure of each pressure height level.  Of course, surface pressure isn't alays 1000hPa; in deep areas of low pressure it can get down to 950hPa, and, under high pressure areas, it can be 1030hPa, so each pressure height will vary as well - a given pressure height will be closer to th ground when there's low pressure as the atmosphere occupies a slightly shallower layer than under high pressure; this is what is meant in model discussions when people refer to lower heights.  This then means that, under high pressure, the opposite is the case - a given pressure height is further from the ground.  As an average, 850hPa is around 1500 metres (5000 feet) above sea level.  Colder air at a given pressure height suggests low pressure (heights are lower), whereas warmer temperatures suggest high pressure (there is an exception in Greenland and Siberia in winter where surface cold air causes a surface high which is colder than low pressure would be).  Otherwise, the lines are simply isobars as you'd find on a weather forecast chart.

Thanks for your reply :) 

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  • Location: Home = Haywards Heath. Work = Burgess Hill
  • Weather Preferences: snow, storms or both at same time..
  • Location: Home = Haywards Heath. Work = Burgess Hill

Just been out in the garden refuelling my car (runs on waste cooking oil) and it feels a lot colder now than it did 2 or 3 hours ago when i was last outside.

my garden weather station says it's 4.8c with dew point of 3.1c, so not as cold as it feels.

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  • Location: Addington
  • Weather Preferences: Love a bit of snow
  • Location: Addington

Wouldn’t it be nice if by some miracle every model run trended south west now and we nicked Sunday’s snow then Monday’s snow dumped on us too

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  • Location: St Ives, Cambs
  • Location: St Ives, Cambs
4 minutes ago, snowbob said:

Wouldn’t it be nice if by some miracle every model run trended south west now and we nicked Sunday’s snow then Monday’s snow dumped on us too

Not really, why be greedy?

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
5 minutes ago, snowbob said:

Wouldn’t it be nice if by some miracle every model run trended south west now and we nicked Sunday’s snow then Monday’s snow dumped on us too

After 4/5 years without any decent snowfall here, yes. Yes it would!

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  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Frosty Mornings
  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL

No snow, no go

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  • Location: Addington
  • Weather Preferences: Love a bit of snow
  • Location: Addington
Just now, Danny* said:

After 4/5 years without any decent snowfall here, yes. Yes it would!

Exactly that’s not greedy just evening out our luck over the years I would say

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  • Location: Addington
  • Weather Preferences: Love a bit of snow
  • Location: Addington

Never been a fan of northelies.

not for south of the river.

its either wishbone effect or sleet to rain in almost every case.

give me an ENE any day 

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  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Frosty Mornings
  • Location: Huntingdon Cambridgeshire 45ft ASL

Anything that dumps snow works

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  • Location: Home = Haywards Heath. Work = Burgess Hill
  • Weather Preferences: snow, storms or both at same time..
  • Location: Home = Haywards Heath. Work = Burgess Hill
13 minutes ago, huntso said:

Not really, why be greedy?

your joking surely ? 

It would be amazing if all the snow that's been forecast by the models for up north landed in south east England for a change, i would gladly rob all the norths snow this winter if i could lol

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