Seasonality 4,851 Posted October 31, 2017 Not even winter, and not even cold yet and I've heard people in the office (in London) moaning about how cold it is. Also saying how they "heard it was going to snow this week," obviously they read the Express. Same person then said "once it gets to 4 degrees then it can snow." Oh if it were that simple! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feb1991blizzard 14,065 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Treat!!! Edited October 31, 2017 by feb1991blizzard 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheeky_monkey 3,008 Posted October 31, 2017 winter has duly arrived here...tis snowing not too bad..before the real cold kicks in overnight....thereafter we are into minus double digits for a while..dont expect to see much in the way plus double digits until April next year. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLover 856 Posted October 31, 2017 Can I have some of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.B. 13 Posted October 31, 2017 55 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said: Treat!!! OMG! What a bunch of pansies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walsall Wood Snow 1,074 Posted November 1, 2017 21 hours ago, Seasonality said: Not even winter, and not even cold yet and I've heard people in the office (in London) moaning about how cold it is. Also saying how they "heard it was going to snow this week," obviously they read the Express. Same person then said "once it gets to 4 degrees then it can snow." Oh if it were that simple! Yeah, there are plenty of people out there who have some quite false ideas about how the weather works (though I too was once pretty ignorant). The amount of people I've heard who actually believe we can get snow 2 weeks after New York is incredible. If only, because the UK would be a much snowier place if it did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weather-history 12,947 Posted November 1, 2017 19 hours ago, feb1991blizzard said: Treat!!! These two gems from December 1981 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weather_Novice 115 Posted November 1, 2017 22 hours ago, feb1991blizzard said: Treat!!! Put your burning candles right next to your nylon net curtains ... After many years of mild winters, have to wonder if we will see winter weather like that again... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul_1978 2,373 Posted November 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Weather_Novice said: Put your burning candles right next to your nylon net curtains ... After many years of mild winters, have to wonder if we will see winter weather like that again... December 1990, followed hot on the heels by Feb 1991, two significant UK snow events in one winter. You never know - the dice would have to fall right but you can't rule it out! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,625 Posted November 1, 2017 23 hours ago, feb1991blizzard said: Treat!!! Cool, childhood days meaning snow, and often heard Moira Stewart, as I looked forward to the bbc weather at 6.25pm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullseye 515 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Winter2017-18Forecast.pdf Very interesting forecast which I thought I would share with you guys, one of the American mets from Twitter had issued his 2017-18 forecast. His top analogs are 1962/63 and 1995/96! Was a great read and very informative although I did get ahead of myself! Will add Twitter link if people are having problems viewing pdf: Edited November 1, 2017 by Bullseye 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzard81 5,305 Posted November 1, 2017 I like the look of the cold sst's surrounding Italy. Surely that should aid in the development of our old friend the Genoa low through the coming winter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don 1,428 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Weather-history said: These two gems from December 1981 Even though I was only five years old back then, I remember the snow turning to rain that Sunday evening. It ruined my snowman! Thankfully, the snow returned with a vengeance in January! Edited November 1, 2017 by Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkies_do_I_see 234 Posted November 1, 2017 My hopes are tempered by the recent mild winters. It's generally going to be rarer to receive cold and snow thanks to the warming planet. But as a snow lover, I seek solace in the fact we regularly get "stuck" in weather patterns. In recent years we have had weeks of westerlies (December 2015), weeks of easterlies (March 2013), weeks of a jet stream locked well south of us (December 2010). So for me, there is every chance of a cold winter ahead. We just need the dice to land perfectly. In probability terms, that would probably require 2 dice landing on a 1 or 2 to hit the winter jackpot so many on here crave.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaAl 237 Posted November 2, 2017 I'm In Calgary, snowing outside as I type this, set for 3 days of continuous snowfall. Definitely the best part of moving here! At first my gut was leading me to 2009/2010 winter then 12/13 and now 13/14 Over here we are beginning to see a persistent pacific high which is set to give us a very cold few weeks but my concern for everyone back in the UK is the stormy potential from a potentially energized jet stream caused from the deepening cold in Canada meeting with the lows travelling up the eastern U.S. I'm glad to see a forecast for a trop vortex-split in the mid range but looking at the strengthening vortex in the short term, i'm not sure if the vortex is going to strengthen and then get itself comfortable as it did in 2013/14. However, with it only being November 1st and an easterly QBO among with low sunspot activity gives me more hope than 3 years ago. All aboard the model roller coaster! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLover 856 Posted November 2, 2017 16 hours ago, CanadaAl said: I'm In Calgary, snowing outside as I type this, set for 3 days of continuous snowfall. Definitely the best part of moving here! At first my gut was leading me to 2009/2010 winter then 12/13 and now 13/14 Over here we are beginning to see a persistent pacific high which is set to give us a very cold few weeks but my concern for everyone back in the UK is the stormy potential from a potentially energized jet stream caused from the deepening cold in Canada meeting with the lows travelling up the eastern U.S. I'm glad to see a forecast for a trop vortex-split in the mid range but looking at the strengthening vortex in the short term, i'm not sure if the vortex is going to strengthen and then get itself comfortable as it did in 2013/14. However, with it only being November 1st and an easterly QBO among with low sunspot activity gives me more hope than 3 years ago. All aboard the model roller coaster! I'm so jealous! 20-30CM?? (accuweather) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowbunting 427 Posted November 2, 2017 On 31/10/2017 at 18:23, feb1991blizzard said: Treat!!! Do you know what the actual date of this was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feb1991blizzard 14,065 Posted November 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, snowbunting said: Do you know what the actual date of this was? There's various clips, weekend 8th Dec 1990 and 9th feb 1991 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catacol 11,940 Posted November 2, 2017 On 01/11/2017 at 18:39, Bullseye said: Winter2017-18Forecast.pdf Very interesting forecast which I thought I would share with you guys, one of the American mets from Twitter had issued his 2017-18 forecast. His top analogs are 1962/63 and 1995/96! Was a great read and very informative although I did get ahead of myself! Will add Twitter link if people are having problems viewing pdf: Agree - like the forecast and just got my knuckles rapped for mentioning your Twitter link over on the mod thread. I like his thinking... and in the last few hours he has updated that his predicted PDO is progressing as planned. Never mind 63 - I’d happily take 96... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullseye 515 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Catacol said: Agree - like the forecast and just got my knuckles rapped for mentioning your Twitter link over on the mod thread. I like his thinking... and in the last few hours he has updated that his predicted PDO is progressing as planned. Never mind 63 - I’d happily take 96... Will be very interested on how this progresses, also liked how he admitted to his failings on last year's forecast. One key thing which I don't he mentioned was the hurricane season, if we factor this in then 95/96 hurricane season ranks high up in the table and not far of this season. Unsure of the '62 hurricane season. Edited November 2, 2017 by Bullseye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 17,864 Posted November 2, 2017 Interesting blog from @Nick Finnis Early thoughts on winter 2017/2018 - a colder winter than recent years Netweather winter forecast due out around mid-month..... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nn2013 317 Posted November 2, 2017 I have confidence in the linkage posted by Paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oasis 28 Posted November 2, 2017 Steve Murr if reading, we're seeing a lot of stressed vortexes in the ensembles at t 240+, I remember reading something last year about the Arctic oscillation in November quite often being connected to winter CET. Somethng about at least 1 month being colder. Was that you? If so, that theory may be tested this year, if the AO can be negative for the month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul_1978 2,373 Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, oasis said: Steve Murr if reading, we're seeing a lot of stressed vortexes in the ensembles at t 240+, I remember reading something last year about the Arctic oscillation in November quite often being connected to winter CET. Somethng about at least 1 month being colder. Was that you? If so, that theory may be tested this year, if the AO can be negative for the month. Tag Steve so he sees it by putting an @ in front of his name, i.e. @Steve Murr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
