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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
2 minutes ago, bluearmy said:

Eric Webb was arguing on twitter that the size of the storm made a cat 5 restrengthening unlikely in his opinion 

he also commented that in his experience, storms that go cat 5 and then make landfall which weakens them will not regain cat 5 again 

Its already done it once so storm proving him wrong already.

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......

I think we are all on a learning curve here as to just what 2017 hurricanes can do and that includes Mr Webb! all we can do is wait and see what the next 20 hrs or so brings?

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  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Hurricanes, Thunderstorms and blizzards please!
  • Location: Nr Chelmsford, Essex
7 minutes ago, bluearmy said:

Eric Webb was arguing on twitter that the size of the storm made a cat 5 restrengthening unlikely in his opinion 

he also commented that in his experience, storms that go cat 5 and then make landfall which weakens them will not regain cat 5 again 

This storm has not followed the script so far so it's a big shout from Mr Webb.

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  • Location: Bristol
  • Location: Bristol
7 minutes ago, cheese said:

Whether it does or not is here neither nor there imo, Cat 4 at landfall would still be a disaster.

Actually, it does; as the wind gusts would be significantly higher. 

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  • Location: Staffordshire Moorlands - 271m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder / lightning, Freezing rain, snow, ice and blizzards!
  • Location: Staffordshire Moorlands - 271m ASL

Visible on Mallory Square Webcam too

 

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  • Location: Leeds
  • Weather Preferences: snow, heat, thunderstorms
  • Location: Leeds
Just now, draztik said:

Actually, it does; as the wind gusts would be significantly higher. 

It's the difference between a catastrophic storm and a devastating storm. A Cat 4 hurricane is nothing to celebrate.

A lot of people seem to be grasping at straws lately - even talking about the entire thing going off to Louisiana. 

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  • Location: New Zealand
  • Location: New Zealand
Just now, cheese said:

It's the difference between a catastrophic storm and a devastating storm. A Cat 4 hurricane is nothing to celebrate.

A lot of people seem to be grasping at straws lately - even talking about the entire thing going off to Louisiana. 

I'm sure LA would appreciate that, having just about got over Katrina (aren't some of those abandoned neighborhoods still there?

 

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  • Location: Whaley Bridge - Peak District
  • Location: Whaley Bridge - Peak District

A bit of good news at least is that the Royal Netherlands AF KC10 is landing somewhere in the N.Caribbean this hour. The RAF have also been mobilized today to provide relief and clean-up efforts.

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  • Location: Newbury
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and snow but not together
  • Location: Newbury

https://twitter.com/NateLewisTN/status/906611506695065600

Not sure how true this is but it seems with this tweet someone is staying on his boat in the keys and refused to leave. Wtf. 

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
6 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:

I think we are all on a learning curve here as to just what 2017 hurricanes can do and that includes Mr Webb! all we can do is wait and see what the next 20 hrs or so brings?

I  think the learning curve should also consider the hiatus of the last 12 years....

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  • Location: Leeds
  • Weather Preferences: snow, heat, thunderstorms
  • Location: Leeds
3 minutes ago, crimsone said:

I'm sure LA would appreciate that, having just about got over Katrina (aren't some of those abandoned neighborhoods still there?

 

New Orleans never fully recovered and I'm pretty sure their population is still below where it was in 2005 prior to Katrina.

Even if it didn't landfall in Florida it would still landfall somewhere. A landfall in Texas or Louisiana is no better - probably much worse.

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  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl
  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl

Irma hasn't really made any landfalls yet only small islands and scraping the coast of Cuba and the direct landfalls on the small islands didn't weaken it which was expected.

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
1 minute ago, DAVID SNOW said:

I  think the learning curve should also consider the hiatus of the last 12 years....

I think the ramp up in the pacific including our first 'super Typhoons' answered that as we saw upper level imbalance between Atlantic and Pacific Basins leading to unfavourable upper atmosphere ( with record breaking shear over the Caribbean). The 'naturals' in the Pacific ended this back in 2014 and so we have been slowly moving toward this point since then with plenty of storms forming but only the strongest making strong cat storms? They were also all pretty 'fishy' but now we are back to 05' type conditions with another 15yrs of warming across the globe to now add into the mix.

I'd say look at the last time the basin saw a run of active years and then make those storms at least 1 Cat higher?

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
Just now, ThundersnowDays said:

Irma hasn't really made any landfalls yet only small islands and scraping the coast of Cuba.

It did drop from cat 5 and then recover after the islands and could well do so after cuba too. I am  hopinv it dorsn't though. 

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  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl
  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl
1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

It did drop from cat 5 and then recover after the islands and could well do so after cuba too. I am  hopinv it dorsn't though. 

It was a Cat 5 all the way until near Cuba.

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)

Reports of a tonado on Brett Adair's live stream just then

https://livestormchasing.com/map

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  • Location: Leeds
  • Weather Preferences: snow, heat, thunderstorms
  • Location: Leeds
2 minutes ago, ThundersnowDays said:

It was a Cat 5 all the way until near Cuba.

It weakened to a Cat 4, then regained Cat 5 status when it entered the warm waters just off Cuba.

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  • Location: The Deben Valley, Suffolk
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms, very cold (inc. anticyclonic) weather
  • Location: The Deben Valley, Suffolk
1 minute ago, ThundersnowDays said:

It was a Cat 5 all the way until near Cuba.

No, it wasn't. 

Hurricane Irma.png

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  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl
  • Location: Bradford, Wilts - 273ft asl
3 minutes ago, suffolkboy_ said:

No, it wasn't. 

Hurricane Irma.png

I meant above Cuba and it looks pretty close to it on that picture. My original point was that islands like Anguilla and Barbuda didn't effect its strength only once it got a bit further on towards Hispaniola.

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
8 minutes ago, ThundersnowDays said:

It was a Cat 5 all the way until near Cuba.

It weaken near pr although the eye didn't go over it. It regained cat 5 again between pr and cuba.

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)

 

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