Hurricane Irma

[toggerob]

SSTs in Southern Florida waters are currently at 30'c - 31'c with 4000KJ of CAPE available. Just seen NICKF mention this also.

Edited September 8, 2017 by SNOW_JOKE

[Polar Bear]

In all this pure devastation, fright, monumentus evacuations and preparations.. I see the politicians have started their point scoring and war of opinions.. like the response too slow in both preparation and relief etc.. and from Britain.. this is disgusting and cheap. If you knew so much and can so much better, you sort it. http://news.sky.com/story/live-hurricane-irma-hits-caribbean-islands-11022807.

Someone please slap them. Hard. 

[Day 10]

Plenty of Irma news and updates here: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-united-states-hurricane-warning-puerto-rico-leeward-islands-0

[crimsone]

6 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

In all this pure devastation, fright, monumentus evacuations and preparations.. I see the politicians have started their point scoring and war of opinions.. like the response too slow in both preparation and relief etc.. and from Britain.. this is disgusting and cheap. If you knew so much and can so much better, you sort it. http://news.sky.com/story/live-hurricane-irma-hits-caribbean-islands-11022807.

Someone please slap them. Hard. 

Actually can't agree with that. We all knew what was probably coming. The French Government acted accordingly, and the British Government didn't - it reacted instead. We could have had boots on the ground immediately and we didn't. We should have - protecting these places in times of natural disaster (both impending and in the aftermath) is part of our responsibility and part of the deal we made in their governance. Alas, it's a point that needs to be made, because our complacency in the matter is, and was not, OK.

[Polar Bear]

3 minutes ago, crimsone said:

Actually can't agree with that. We all knew what was probably coming. The French Government acted accordingly, and the British Government didn't - it reacted instead. We could have had boots on the ground immediately and we didn't. We should have - protecting these places in times of natural disaster (both impending and in the aftermath) is part of our responsibility and part of the deal we made in their governance. Alas, it's a point that needs to be made, because our complacency in the matter is, and was not, OK.

International relief, isn't confined to each country doing one thing for their country.. so not just boots on the ground or ships sent. It is a collaborative approach with a strategy and combines a plethora of elements. French, English, Dutch USA will be working together. They would also have been deployed prior on other urgencies or priorities or excersises etc. Alas it isn't as plain cut as we think it should be. 

[cowdog]

5 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

International relief, isn't confined to each country doing one thing for their country.. so not just boots on the ground or ships sent. It is a collaborative approach with a strategy and combines a plethora of elements. French, English, Dutch USA will be working together. They would also have been deployed prior on other urgencies or priorities or excersises etc. Alas it isn't as plain cut as we think it should be. 

This isn't international relief. There has been 2 British Overseas territories with over 50,000 people on them that have been flattened, and yet the British Government didn't respond for over a day after the first Island was hit. As Crimsone said the French sent troops to Saint Martin before the Hurricane hit, the Dutch had ships and planes waiting for the storm to pass. The UK had nothing prepared, despite having the most amount of people affected.

Edited September 8, 2017 by cowdog

[Hurricane Debby]

22 minutes ago, Day 10 said:

Plenty of Irma news and updates here: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-united-states-hurricane-warning-puerto-rico-leeward-islands-0

That's a great link. Thanks Day 10 

[Polar Bear]

4 minutes ago, cowdog said:

This isn't international relief. There has been 2 British Overseas territories with over 50,000 people on them that have been flattened, and yet the British Government didn't respond for over a day after the first Island was hit. As Crimsone said the French sent troops to Saint Martin before the Hurricane hit, the Dutch had ships and planes waiting for the storm to pass. The UK had nothing prepared, despite having the most amount of people affected.

Fair argument, and I won't say anymore on the matter. 

[Iceberg]

Outer bands are starting to show up on Florida radar. 

The size of Irma is huge over 100 miles east to west and north to south of hurricane winds. 

[Polar Bear]

34 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

Fair argument, and I won't say anymore on the matter. 

...  just heard though we have our navy and marines already at the Islands.. and RAF etc have supplies flying over.. good news for those affected. 

[Singularity]

Not often I've been able to pick out the concentric eyewall structure on standard-resolution infra-red but that's just what can be done at the moment. The old inner eyewall has been very stubborn but I think it's finally losing the battle. 

Also, the eye jogged north in the past hour, reducing the likely duration of direct interaction with Cuba. Every little bit more latitude helps Irma and Cuba... and really doesn't help Florida. Unless the unthinkable happens and Irma stays so far south that the trough doesn't lift it north properly... but the odds on that look pretty slim given that it's been pretty much dead-on the NHC track over the past day.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Singularity

[Had Worse]

A royr of the Turks and cacos after Irma

[chillyblast]

Mind blowing how big this thing is still (to me at least):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by chillyblast

[Mokidugway]

Looks like a tropical disturbance way east in sat images,another on the way ?

 

[chillyblast]

14 minutes ago, Mokidugway said:

Looks like a tropical disturbance way east in sat images,another on the way ?

 

You made me look and my unskilled eye counts a potential 3 more? starting at Conakry. (again unskilled eye remember, might be normal).

[Polar Bear]

3 minutes ago, chillyblast said:

You made me look and my unskilled eye counts a potential 3 more? starting at Conakry. (again unskilled eye remember, might be normal).

 me too (one only though to my unskilled eye) 

[Polar Bear]

There's a twitter post that says that the water level off Miami Beach think it was has dropped... is that a possible phenomena relating to before the storm arrives? 

[crimsone]

21 minutes ago, Mokidugway said:

Looks like a tropical disturbance way east in sat images,another on the way ?

 

 

5 minutes ago, chillyblast said:

You made me look and my unskilled eye counts a potential 3 more? starting at Conakry. (again unskilled eye remember, might be normal).

We have the invest thread for this sort of thing - though it's understandable that so much attention is being focussed on Irma.
 

As it goes, there are disturbances emerging from Africa, where a tropical wave was expected by the morning.

[matty40s]

8 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

There's a twitter post that says that the water level off Miami Beach think it was has dropped... is that a possible phenomena relating to before the storm arrives? 

Tides gone out.

[Mokidugway]

8 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

There's a twitter post that says that the water level off Miami Beach think it was has dropped... is that a possible phenomena relating to before the storm arrives? 

Quite possible as storm surge creates a bulge of water mass that's got to come from somewhere.

[JK1]

I think Sometimes wind direction can push out water it happened in haiyan, but maybe could be a meteotsunami phenomenon caused by the atmospheric disturbance from storms there rare but can happen

Edited September 8, 2017 by JK1

[Iceberg]

Nhc have updated I think they are being a little conservative as recon are in. However they have upgraded to say that Irma will be in the Florida keys as a cat 5

[Pixel]

Link to Animation of water vapour:

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_NHEM/animweur.html

Bookmark, as there's plenty of other graphical info also available from this link.

 

Crazy sad times for all folk enduring Irma and more 

 

 

[crimsone]

3 minutes ago, Pixel said:

Link to Animation of water vapour:

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_NHEM/animweur.html

Bookmark, as there's plenty of other graphical info also available from this link.

 

Crazy sad times for all folk enduring Irma and more 

 

 

I love that you can basically make out the hadley cell model in operation on that loop, right with the mid-latitude cell, even if the polar cell is somewhat obscured by static data. Nice little image.

Edited September 8, 2017 by crimsone

[knocker]

National Storm Surge Hazard Maps

http://noaa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=d9ed7904dbec441a9c4dd7b277935fad&entry=1