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43 minutes ago, snowray said:

Interesting FAX chart showing somewhat more potential that the UKMO output, could still get a Northerly/Northeasterly out of that.

sorry, chart never attached.

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44 minutes ago, radiohead said:

On the 06Z GFS, Greece is down to -23 and covered in snow....

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...on he same day that double digit temps push into the southwest here...

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As it goes, that is really miserable.:angry:

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10 minutes ago, Gord said:

Yep, lowland snow in Britain is complete history. Just like we said it was during winter 2008.

A bit like after that amazing August 13 years ago we can expect somewhere to reach 100F every year from now on. July 2006 also told us that British summers would always be hot from now on.

Last winter we learnt that every British winter will be wet and stormy from now on...

...see where I'm going with this?

 

Totally agree. The trouble is we always remember the minority of great snow events and heatwaves from the past and forget the overwhelming majority of the normal/ average conditions of the past.

Whilst I accept, at present, our climate has become slightly milder, to say lowland snow in Britain is history is frankly absurd. I'm sure, even down here in southern Britain, there will be plenty more spells of freezing cold weather and big snowfalls to come, when the conditions are right.

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27 minutes ago, hooch5 said:

January 17th - 14 degrees warm and spring like, then on January 20th it started getting colder, I wonder if  January 2017 is starting to bear a resemblance?

What year are you talking about and what happened next?

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Just now, hooch5 said:

I wasn't born untill1958, I remember 62-3 that was  belter river froze over and the villagers played skittles on the ice! 

:laugh:ok now I understand your -11

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57 minutes ago, Gord said:

Yep, lowland snow in Britain is complete history. Just like we said it was during winter 2008.

A bit like after that amazing August 13 years ago we can expect somewhere to reach 100F every year from now on. July 2006 also told us that British summers would always be hot from now on.

Last winter we learnt that every British winter will be wet and stormy from now on...

...see where I'm going with this?

 

Don't be ridiculous. Increasingly uncommon? Sure. But history? Please. We are a northern country and will remain prone to snow events. I live in Essex and see some form of snow every year. Even last year there was a flurry on mothers day.

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Just now, Spikey M said:

Don't be ridiculous. Increasingly uncommon? Sure. But history? Please. We are a northern country and will remain prone to snow events. I live in Essex and see some form of snow every year. Even last year there was a flurry on mothers day.

I don't think you did see where I was going with it...

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Cleared up a few leaves in the garden. Not blowing all over the place like they usually do. Got to thinking about blocked winters in the past.

1963/4 was exceptionally so. England& Wales averaged 75mm in total for the winter. Highs seemed to swan around aimlessly all winter. Very boring after the delights of the previous winter. And yet, at least in England, we had two decent snow events. Charts below. Didn't seem a big deal at the time. But if we could eke out something similar in these snow starved times I think a lot of us would be satisfied.

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2 minutes ago, Spikey M said:

Don't be ridiculous. Increasingly uncommon? Sure. But history? Please. We are a northern country and will remain prone to snow events. I live in Essex and see some form of snow every year. Even last year there was a flurry on mothers day.


I think you and Gord agree.  He's critiquing my argument that lowland British snow is history.  BTW, I don't want that to be the case.  I'm no mild fan, just resigned to what I think is inevitable.

 

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7 minutes ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

Those winters were a brief and final aberration.  From now on, the pattern is set.

That is an incredibly bold statement to make. I respect all opinions as is proper on a forum where we discuss a science. But you may need to be prepared for a backlash with that one. 

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6 minutes ago, Spikey M said:

Don't be ridiculous. Increasingly uncommon? Sure. But history? Please. We are a northern country and will remain prone to snow events. I live in Essex and see some form of snow every year. Even last year there was a flurry on mothers day.

I think he agrees with you!!

on another note,can anyone tell me from what year this ceefax page is from ?image.jpg

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