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  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
    1 hour ago, Shunter said:

    That will be based on yesterdays data......and was correct then. Any changes on tonights 12z runs will not materialise until tomorrow.

    yes the 12z have changed

    I'm not surprised these huge Siberian high do not get pushed away so fast as the models want to.the gfs is especially junk ,seems no.model is much use if the weather goes against the norm.lots have said the low will track much further s,

    fascinating model watching hope the people in the mad thread that swear by the gfs have learnt some harsh lessons this week

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    This is wrong on so many levels...

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  • Location: York
  • Location: York

    Don't know why some are expressing disappointment already. Today seems to have gone much as forecast: cold encroaching, snow flurries all day, 2C max, now 0C with windchill taking it down to -4C

    The next four days still promise some exceptional cold and significant snow. I for one don't really care if - and it remains a big IF - it all goes mild 'n' mushy at the weekend, plenty of interest before then

    Decent covering of snow in York tomorrow I trust; the first of any consequence since 2013

    Camera at the ready!

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  • Location: Corby 130 meters above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Corby 130 meters above sea level
    2 hours ago, sparky1972 said:

    met office amber warnings being restricted to smaller areas now, its gone for my area tomorrow and now we might see a bit of light snow if we are lucky, i have to say this has all been way over hyped.

    Yep know how you feel northants lost the amber one today had a couple of snow flakes all day

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  • Location: 230m asl - Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru/ NE Wales
  • Location: 230m asl - Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru/ NE Wales

    We need more rampers here...

    Decent snow cover and icicle formation in Cambridge.....-2C

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  • Location: Linford, Essex
  • Location: Linford, Essex

    Think I might be bringing the mood down in my regional thread so I'll stay in here. Some people are going to be a bit disappointment in the morning me thinks. :closedeyes:

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  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
  • Location: spalding, sth lincs
    1 minute ago, Nizzer said:

    Think I might be bringing the mood down in my regional thread so I'll stay in here. Some people are going to be a bit disappointment in the morning me thinks. :closedeyes:

    i think there are going to be alot of disappointed people in the morning if they are hoping to wake up to plenty of snow, me included, i have never seen such bad metoffice hourly changes regarding snowfall, it should be chucking it down right now, and not a flake is falling.

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  • Location: Staines, UK or Prague, Czech Republic
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and sunny, thunderstorms, snow, fog, frost, squall lines
  • Location: Staines, UK or Prague, Czech Republic
    5 hours ago, jayb1989 said:

    Don’t despair Tony, you could well get 20/30 mins of snow on Thursday night before it turns to cold rain.

    Not if some of the latest output is to be believed. ECM not bringing the 0C 850’s over the Channel. But earlier GFS output may be correct.

    Edit: Warmer air does make quite large inroads into the UK from the S. So, cold rain for much of England, big disappointment for so many, no doubt. 

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  • Location: Linford, Essex
  • Location: Linford, Essex

    After this cold spell/snap/flop, whatever you want to call it is over, I think I'll be ready for spring. Start looking for that first +20*c spell. 

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  • Location: East Mids
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder / lightning, Freezing rain, snow, ice and blizzards!
  • Location: East Mids

    Same as Isabells above, which one do you pay heed to? is there any possibility of snow in MK / M1 this week as I'm travelling a lot and would rather avoid the carnage if possible! I thought it was pretty much confined to the east now.

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  • Location: 230m asl - Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru/ NE Wales
  • Location: 230m asl - Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru/ NE Wales

    "big disappointment for so many"

    Thursday/ Friday is fantasy island territory in this current situation..... Wednesday night will probably have a pretty firm idea of any Friday incursion/breakdown ....but if the models disagree even then .... It's a nowcasting event

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  • Location: Linford, Essex
  • Location: Linford, Essex
    8 minutes ago, Isabellesnanny said:

    Sorry, a bit dim here - BBC forecast and Met office forecast seem to say different things -  which forecast shortly take more notice of hearing in mind the BBC's provider?

     

    Thanks

     

    5 minutes ago, chillyblast said:

    Same as Isabells above, which one do you pay heed to? is there any possibility of snow in MK / M1 this week as I'm travelling a lot and would rather avoid the carnage if possible! I thought it was pretty much confined to the east now.

    Thanks

    From my personal point of view, they have both chopped and changed things about over the past couple of days. Met Office seemed to have over-hyped this spell a bit though, so it looks like the Beeb are the more trustworthy at the moment.

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  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire

    I was told time and time again that it will be so cold the higher sun won’t melt the snow. Dew points being so low and all. 

    Well the sun melted all the snow today and even with these uppers some places recorded 3/4 degrees

    unless it is a major blizzard with sub zero temps and cloud cover forget it after mid feb. It’s pointless 

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  • Location: Staines, UK or Prague, Czech Republic
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and sunny, thunderstorms, snow, fog, frost, squall lines
  • Location: Staines, UK or Prague, Czech Republic
    26 minutes ago, Bryn Webster said:

    "big disappointment for so many"

    Thursday/ Friday is fantasy island territory in this current situation..... Wednesday night will probably have a pretty firm idea of any Friday incursion/breakdown ....but if the models disagree even then .... It's a nowcasting event

    There’s always hope, the cold block is exceptional and I don’t think any model has the exact/correct handle on what will happen at the end of the week. Current output looks poor for sustained snow across much of England, though, sadly. 

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  • Location: Lucan Co Dublin
  • Location: Lucan Co Dublin
    24 minutes ago, ptow said:

    I was told time and time again that it will be so cold the higher sun won’t melt the snow. Dew points being so low and all. 

    Well the sun melted all the snow today and even with these uppers some places recorded 3/4 degrees

    unless it is a major blizzard with sub zero temps and cloud cover forget it after mid feb. It’s pointless 

    Depending where you are!

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  • Location: Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire
  • Weather Preferences: Extremes
  • Location: Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire

    Some of you are real killjoys.  We can easily get snow in March or April, in fact April can be heavy.  In case you doubt me ... https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2016/04/27/snow-in-late-april-more-common-than-you-may-think/

     

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  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
    14 minutes ago, DOdo said:

    Depending where you are!

    It’s been the case right across the south all day. 

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  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
  • Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
    7 minutes ago, Ukwoody said:

    Some of you are real killjoys.  We can easily get snow in March or April, in fact April can be heavy.  In case you doubt me ... https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2016/04/27/snow-in-late-april-more-common-than-you-may-think/

     

    It may fall but rarely settles for more than an hour 

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  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres
  • Location: South Woodham Ferrers, height 15 metres

    The South Woodham snow shield is very powerful. Showers have missed the town to the north and south by meters all day. Just a dusting here. There must be half a foot in Rayleigh and Rochford by now.

     

     

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  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
    1 hour ago, Nizzer said:

    After this cold spell/snap/flop, whatever you want to call it is over, I think I'll be ready for spring. Start looking for that first +20*c spell. 

    Me too. Actually if the south coast can't get anything of of this, I might give up chasing snow altogether. Low pressure running into uppers of minus 17C? Should be a total shoe-in for a blizzard. I'll be horrified if this one is added to the (very) long list of disappointments. It's not the geography that's at fault, it's just seriously bad luck. My goodness, just how many spells of torrential rain have we had on the south coast at 3 or 4 degrees above freezing? 

    But this is the one I've been waiting for. You look at so many historical south coast blizzards, most of them look exactly like this. I can't imagine getting a better chance than this, so if it fails, maybe it's time to hang up my boots.

    No, give me summer anytime. In summer, you spot a good pattern 8 or 9 days out, and 50% of the time it delivers. We get the high twenties without the ridiculous heat inland. We get day after day of glorious sunshine. Yes there are disappointments in summer too but there seems a fair balance between the ones that work out and the ones that don't.

    I think we're due a break down here. If the Midlands could get a break in December with that slider low further south at T12, well, considering we lost a blizzard to the sea in 2013 on a last minute southerly correction, I think it's high time the balance was redressed. If not this time, I can't imagine when.

    I'm done with reading stories about it. I want to see it with my own eyes!

     

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  • Location: Lucan Co Dublin
  • Location: Lucan Co Dublin
    13 minutes ago, ptow said:

    It’s been the case right across the south all day. 

    You never know things may change! Dont throw the towel in just yet. The cold snap is only beginning to start!!

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  • Location: Rotherham
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Frost Sun
  • Location: Rotherham
    16 minutes ago, ptow said:

    It may fall but rarely settles for more than an hour 

     

    We had a ft of snow here in Yorkshie in late April 1981, max temp was 1'C dropping below freezing late afternoon.

    It did thaw once sun came out after 3 days of heavy snow falling.

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  • Location: Lincolnshire - 15m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Frost and snow. A quiet autumn day is also good.
  • Location: Lincolnshire - 15m asl

    Applied for 2 jobs in Scotland recently - failed both times. Not only do I envy those in the north and east tonight, I envy those who dislike cold and ice and prefer warm south westerlies. I know we get a good deal of polar maritime air at times, and even continental feed too... but if you are Knocker and can’t stand the harsh cold of winter you are sitting pretty 48-50 weeks a year in the SW. Easy to dance with the squirrel firm in the knowledge that cold is a 1 in 5 year event (based on my 25 years down here) that rarely lasts more than a few days. 

    Ah well - let’s stay positive. We might yet get snow on Thursday night in the south that sticks around until tea time Saturday. Given past frustrations that would be enough to turn this week into something worthwhile. Anything longer than that (and if the low pivots and slides as per ICON this afternoon) then we may yet keep the milder air at bay.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne
    16 minutes ago, Catacol said:

    Applied for 2 jobs in Scotland recently - failed both times. Not only do I envy those in the north and east tonight, I envy those who dislike cold and ice and prefer warm south westerlies. I know we get a good deal of polar maritime air at times, and even continental feed too... but if you are Knocker and can’t stand the harsh cold of winter you are sitting pretty 48-50 weeks a year in the SW. Easy to dance with the squirrel firm in the knowledge that cold is a 1 in 5 year event (based on my 25 years down here) that rarely lasts more than a few days. 

    Ah well - let’s stay positive. We might yet get snow on Thursday night in the south that sticks around until tea time Saturday. Given past frustrations that would be enough to turn this week into something worthwhile. Anything longer than that (and if the low pivots and slides as per ICON this afternoon) then we may yet keep the milder air at bay.

    Oh how I feel your pain. But yes one must stay positive and two or three days of this cold, dry, air (no longer I trust) will dry out the sodden ground nicely which will mean Sidney will once more be able to skip lightly over it instead of sinking up to his hocks and have problems finding a cache for his nuts. And me as well of course although forget the skip lightly bit.

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