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morning gang ,it certainly is frustrating times but hopefully we will eventually see some cold air flooding south , as for gfs this morning its been on the bottle ,ecm not yet out [come on ecm place that high in the right place for a beasterly ], uk met ,smell the coffee ,well i,v had me fag and a good moan and ramp now back to bed ,cheers gang :yahoo:

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do we need 2 whiners threads? ECM 240 though, don't normally think it will come off, but could do today, next day would look ugly probably, with purples over greenie, definitely looking like the Atlantic will dominate early Dec, 1st could easily be 10° or higher, sigh

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What we want for a change is nice winter not snow. Mild  temps but with a cold wind somewhere.  And my ramp for summer a long warm summer with rain. Snow on hills and peaks that will suit me fine. Looking at models that's what winter might be. Not saying any more than that. Because I have done. A winter forecast using working outs of previous winters from 2012-15 that's what I used to do it.  

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In my twenty years on Ocean Weather Ships I don't ever remember being hit by a shortwave. :shok:

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Have to say the 0z runs Gem aside look horrendous if its high lat blocking you are looking for.So much potential in the 72-144 timeframe for retrogression but yet again too much Atlantic energy scuppering things.The ecm mean looks as bad or worse than the op, back to looking into FI for hope, deja vu.com...

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If the GFS didn't exist we probably wouldn't have much ramping anyway, it is the sole cause of the whaling and gnashing of teeth. Despite numerous upgrades its still crap.

I guess we are now looking to the second week of December and into mid month for any snow. If it did arrive and lasted through the Christmas holidays, I'm sure most would be happy with that.

 

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oh well, get my flip flops out, and shorts TMW not too bad a suppose

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2 hours ago, mountain shadow said:

If the GFS didn't exist we probably wouldn't have much ramping anyway, it is the sole cause of the whaling and gnashing of teeth. Despite numerous upgrades its still crap.

I guess we are now looking to the second week of December and into mid month for any snow. If it did arrive and lasted through the Christmas holidays, I'm sure most would be happy with that.

 

Ha ha. You mean wailing. This is whaling. The atrocious spelling and grammar are part of the entertainment on the model thread.

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This is how I feel when a cold spell is forecast and then actually arrives. :rofl:

 

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7 hours ago, Jonathan Bollen said:

What we want for a change is nice winter not snow. Mild  temps but with a cold wind somewhere.  And my ramp for summer a long warm summer with rain. Snow on hills and peaks that will suit me fine. Looking at models that's what winter might be. Not saying any more than that. Because I have done. A winter forecast using working outs of previous winters from 2012-15 that's what I used to do it.  

Mild winter for a change? Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Not the UK I take it.

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4 minutes ago, Seasonality said:

Ha ha. You mean wailing. This is whaling. The atrocious spelling and grammar are part of the entertainment on the model thread.

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Many apologies, I loose my head when people use the wrong form of a word.

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Just now, mountain shadow said:

Many apologies, I loose my head when people use the wrong form of a word.

:rofl: I see what you did there! (lose)

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5 minutes ago, Seasonality said:

This is how I feel when a cold spell is forecast and then actually arrives. :rofl:

 

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WTF dunno what to say! i'll say if we get proper cold (south) at +24, then somehow still will end up going tits up

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I think if we have a 4th winter in a row where we don't get snow for more than 1/2 day, i'll give up on weather watching all together.

Is it too much to ask for snow to last on the ground for 2 days now???!!

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1 minute ago, cyclonic happiness said:

I think if we have a 4th winter in a row where we don't get snow for more than 1/2 day, i'll give up on weather watching all together.

Is it too much to ask for snow to last on the ground for 2 days now???!!

well it's obvious our winters are getting milder, we must have gone up by 0.2° since the 90's? won't seem a lot but can make a huge difference to low level snow (south) so yes a huge ask unless you live 300m asl in the north

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7 minutes ago, Seasonality said:

Flat as a witch's tit?

When what we all want is as cold as a witch's gazonga!:good:

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A whole hour into the 12zs and not one post in the main thread on the 12z runs. That tells you any snow is a long,long way away. We're certainly into the 2nd week of December now.

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1 minute ago, Mark wheeler said:

I know this is good news and that's great but I'm like a little brat at the moment but I can't say I've been spoilt I haven't seen a flake in 3 years . It keeps getting further away . Aaarrrrggghhhhh

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/WxCoEuroEnergy/status/802156421425008641?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

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I was thinking we would get a northerly further done the line from the GFS 12z around the 5th dec. Shows yea what i know haha

 

The shortwave low what ever you call it went under.

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