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  • Location: Rotherham
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Frost Sun
  • Location: Rotherham

I'd given up on the coming cold spell everyone was going on about when watching last night's long range forecast on bbc news at 21.55, it was showing south westerly winds later next week. 

Looking game on again now though I wouldn't be surprised if it goes tits up again. 

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  • Location: West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme cold & snow
  • Location: West Sussex
13 minutes ago, knocker said:

The amplification at T192 on the ecm run is something else

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Whatever is Sidney going to do with his nuts all buried in snow !

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:laugh:

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  • Location: Horringford, Isle of wight
  • Weather Preferences: snow/thunderstorms
  • Location: Horringford, Isle of wight

One thing I've learned whilst reading the model thread over the past few winter's -

Follow a select few, and ignore the majority.

It all looks promising next week but until the white stuff is crunching under my feet (being an isle of Wight resident), I'll take it all with a pinch of salt.

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  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Varied and not extreme.
  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
18 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

The UKMO model must and I repeat MUST be on board, if its not then forget what the rest show.

If it was that simple anyone could predict what was going to happen.  I'd have agreed with you had you advised caution until the UKMO model was in agreement, but advising that we ignore them and thereby act as though the UKMO is the only valid model is far removed from what most of the knowlegeable posters here (I'm not referring to the majority here, but those who have shown their knowledge over many years) seems strange to me.

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
5 minutes ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

If it was that simple anyone could predict what was going to happen.  I'd have agreed with you had you advised caution until the UKMO model was in agreement, but advising that we ignore them and thereby act as though the UKMO is the only valid model is far removed from what most of the knowlegeable posters here (I'm not referring to the majority here, but those who have shown their knowledge over many years) seems strange to me.

 

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  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
  • Location: Near Romford Essex.
7 minutes ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

If it was that simple anyone could predict what was going to happen.  I'd have agreed with you had you advised caution until the UKMO model was in agreement, but advising that we ignore them and thereby act as though the UKMO is the only valid model is far removed from what most of the knowlegeable posters here (I'm not referring to the majority here, but those who have shown their knowledge over many years) seems strange to me.

Not strange, the knowledgeable members as you call them, fully understand my point.

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  • Location: Hilversum, Netherlands
  • Weather Preferences: Hot Sun, Deep Snow, Convective Goodness, Anvil Crawlers
  • Location: Hilversum, Netherlands

If I wanted to look at turds and casual drug use I’d be watching trainspotting.

Please do a girl a favour and keep it on topic?

 

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  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Varied and not extreme.
  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
19 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

Not strange, the knowledgeable members as you call them, fully understand my point.

GFS says no - you might yet be right.

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  • Location: ipswich <east near the a14> east weather watch
  • Location: ipswich <east near the a14> east weather watch
1 minute ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

GFS says no - you might yet be right.

but  the  bbc  are saying yes massive  turn around from last night!!!

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  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Varied and not extreme.
  • Location: South Norfolk, 44 m ASL.
6 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:

GFS AGAIN says NO!!

FAX charts go with ukmo-

the plot thickens- but has it tilted away from EC?

I  suspect this is the point from which the cold period fades.  Met Office ensembles and high-resolution models obviously back the UKMO output, hence the FAX cgarts, plus GFS is consistent.

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
Just now, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:

I  suspect this is the point from which the cold period fades.  Met Office ensembles and high-resolution models obviously back the UKMO output, hence the FAX cgarts, plus GFS is consistent.

TBH chris GFS might well deliver but im left wondering if EC is going to be too fast with the easterly?

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  • Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne (Forest Hall)
  • Weather Preferences: Extremes
  • Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne (Forest Hall)
1 minute ago, northwestsnow said:

Cant help but feel deflated that this isnt December or january.

 

This has been the best winter for cold, frost, snowfall for a long time.  To cap it off we may get a deep cold pool spell.  Whats there to feel deflated about?

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
1 minute ago, Freezing-Point said:

This has been the best winter for cold, frost, snowfall for a long time.  To cap it off we may get a deep cold pool spell.  Whats there to feel deflated about?

Just prefer the easterly if it arrives to get here in December, probably sounds ungrateful , it probably is.

Hopefully the uppers will be low enough to negate the longer days,sun etc..

Its just my preference TBH.

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  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
  • Location: Scouthead Oldham 295mASL
2 minutes ago, Freezing-Point said:

This has been the best winter for cold, frost, snowfall for a long time.  To cap it off we may get a deep cold pool spell.  Whats there to feel deflated about?

It might have  been the best winter for you, but for many its been rubbish.

Thats life i guess..

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  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
1 hour ago, Team Jo said:

 

Can't seem to get rid of quote box, sorry.

 

Anyway what sort of temperature would those -20 uppers that are showing in the eastern cold pool at the back end of the GFS - would that be around -8 maximums in town centres? 

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  • Location: Staffordshire moorlands 252m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Frosty and fresh
  • Location: Staffordshire moorlands 252m asl
7 minutes ago, Deep Snow please said:

Can't seem to get rid of quote box, sorry.

 

Anyway what sort of temperature would those -20 uppers that are showing in the eastern cold pool at the back end of the GFS - would that be around -8 maximums in town centres? 

For this time of year -7 or -8.

Wish I had a mobile hot soup kitchen I'd make a fortune

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  • Location: Shepton Mallet Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Seasonal
  • Location: Shepton Mallet Somerset

40 years ago this weekend was the Great Southwest Blizzard, a howling Easterly Gale, and over a foot of level snow , together with enormous drifts .   3 weeks or so before my 18th birthday, Will we see a possible repeat performance  ?:D

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  • Location: Orpington Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow freezing rain heat waves
  • Location: Orpington Kent

There really could be some Serious weather in South East England gfs ecm and many more met Office very cold temperatures and snow it’s about time us in South East England proper cold spell that’s if it comes off..:cold:

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