Yorkshire & E England Regional Weather Discussion

[Allseasons-Si]

2 minutes ago, vizzy2004 said:

Isn't Flash Bars a shop?

Highest pub is Tan Hill Inn, Yorkshire Dales 1723ft followed by Cat and Fiddle in Peak District

Oh!,yes,my bad,forgot about Tan hill inn

getting windy here now with bits of sleet.

[inghams85]

21 minutes ago, Allseasons-si said:

I like a bit of fair weather

Honestly...

 

Where on earth has go1-3cm's from with a yellow warning when the Met Office have no earnings for that?! ? I'm so confused!

[MIKE LEVITT]

I know one thing,it will be all rain in hull,lying snow is a thing of the past it seems here in east Yorkshire.

[Allseasons-Si]

4 minutes ago, inghams85 said:

Honestly...

 

Where on earth has go1-3cm's from with a yellow warning when the Met Office have no earnings for that?! ? I'm so confused!

We all don't live on low ground though do we,places with higher elevation will be the impact from those said warnings.

Edited January 17, 2018 by Allseasons-si

[inghams85]

What I will say is the low pressure looks like exiting Hull which is what was shown on yesterday runs (which gave us snow)

[weathermadbarnsleylad]

Don't see much hope tonight but I could wrong lol

[inghams85]

2 minutes ago, Allseasons-si said:

We all don't live on low ground though do we,places with higher elevation will be the impact from those said warnings.

Both are impacted according to that. Low ground 1-3 cm 

High ground10cm's

Those warnings don't exist. Is it an error cos they were yesterday's warnings

[Allseasons-Si]

2 minutes ago, inghams85 said:

Both are impacted according to that. Low ground 1-3 cm 

High ground10cm's

Those warnings don't exist. Is it an error cos they were yesterday's warnings

Just looked at met office and there are no warmings of snow,only wind for tomorrow

headscratching.com

[weathermadbarnsleylad]

Just now, weathermadbarnsleylad said:

Don't see much hope tonight but I could wrong lol

Minds if it does snow will have all melted by 11am like today, seems to me like a waste if day temp does not stay around freezing. We need an easterly or northery  with at least - 8 850hpa before we get really excited. Sorry for been a bore lol

[weathermadbarnsleylad]

Just now, Allseasons-si said:

Just looked at met office and there are no warmings of snow,only wind for tomorrow

headscratching.com

Also met office have rain for Barnsley 70m asl

[inghams85]

7 minutes ago, Allseasons-si said:

Just looked at met office and there are no warmings of snow,only wind for tomorrow

headscratching.com

These were updated the Met warning at 11am and then the 6pm look North forecast has warnings but none on Met website... What an earth is going on?!? lol

Edited January 17, 2018 by inghams85

[Sara_south_yorks]

1 minute ago, inghams85 said:

These were updated the Met warning at 11am and then the 6pm look North forecast has warnings but none on Met website... What an earth is going on?!? lol

Maybe they have created a new game and we have to guess which forecast is the right one 

really though...i have no idea, every forecast i see seems to contradict the last 

[Allseasons-Si]

Latest from ECM

12Z data files will not be available. We contacted them and the problem will be handled tomorrow morning. Sorry for the inconveniance.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php

Knocker has broken into the ECM office and stole the data from the very cold op run,he is getting his red crayons out now

[Kentish Snowman in Yorks]

2 minutes ago, inghams85 said:

These were updated the Met warning at 11am and then the 6pm look North forecast has warnings but none on Met website... What an earth is going on?!? lol

It is bizzare!  Everything points to rain but that BBC forecast suggested widespread snow as does the Meto text forecast for tonight!

Still can't see anything except a rain fest here but who knows what will happen?

Lamp post to the rescue?!

[Winter Cold]

Just now, Allseasons-si said:

Latest from ECM

12Z data files will not be available. We contacted them and the problem will be handled tomorrow morning. Sorry for the inconveniance.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php

Knocker has broken into the ECM office and stole the data from the very cold op run,he is getting his red crayons out now

LOL!

Lets hope we get snow tonight, Friday and Sunday because it might be a while after this if not looking at todays output....

[shaky]

When looking at xc weather low looks slightly north of where it should be and also deeper than it should be right now!!its at 985mb already!!this could be dangerous for wales and central england wind wise!!

[inghams85]

10 minutes ago, snow*please said:

Maybe they have created a new game and we have to guess which forecast is the right one 

really though...i have no idea, every forecast i see seems to contradict the last 

?? Pick rain!!! Guaranteed to win!

[inghams85]

9 minutes ago, Kentish Snowman said:

It is bizzare!  Everything points to rain but that BBC forecast suggested widespread snow as does the Meto text forecast for tonight!

Still can't see anything except a rain fest here but who knows what will happen?

Lamp post to the rescue?!

I think we'll have temporary slush in the very heavy bursts washed away half hour after 

[summer blizzard]

22 minutes ago, shaky said:

When looking at xc weather low looks slightly north of where it should be and also deeper than it should be right now!!its at 985mb already!!this could be dangerous for wales and central england wind wise!!

It's at least 40 miles of the GFS forecast for 9pm.

[Jeremy Shockey]

52 minutes ago, MIKE LEVITT said:

I know one thing,it will be all rain in hull,lying snow is a thing of the past it seems here in east Yorkshire.

The City of Hull only gets lying snow from an Easterly or a North easterly nowadays..............that has been true for at least a decade or so Mike ( as you know )

( Swanland / South Cave / Beverley ......15 miles away can get 6 inches in numerous set ups .......but for Hull it has to be a perfect storm ( sadly )

 

 

 

Edited January 17, 2018 by Jeremy Shockey

[tayzi]

Just driven over Woodhead, road clear, snowing only on the very summit and very fine, blowing horizontally ...temp was 0 deg.

[Allseasons-Si]

Def some wet flakes mixed in with the rain here now

Edited January 17, 2018 by Allseasons-si

[reef]

5 minutes ago, Jeremy Shockey said:

The City of Hull only gets lying snow from an Easterly or a North easterly nowadays..............that has been true for at least a decade or so Mike ( as you know )

( Swanland / South Cave / Beverley ......15 miles away can get 6 inches in numerous set ups .......but for Hull it has to be a perfect storm ( sadly )

It's more to do with the setups being extremely marginal in recent years. -5C or -6C 850hPa temps just wont do, it needs to be -7C or -8C at least ideally. In a direct easterly I've known rain at -8C 850hPa before now. The most reliable setup is a NNE blast with at least -8C 850hPa temps, but in recent years they've been all but extinct in the winter months. You're right though, a potent NE or E with -10C or lower and we're hammered, though I can count on one hand how many of these there have been in the last 30 years.

[Kentish Snowman in Yorks]

10 minutes ago, Allseasons-si said:

Def some wet flakes mixed in with the rain here now

Temperature has edged down from 2.7c to 2.4c here but still not much in the way of anything falling yet though.  We might get some temporary snow if this band gets heavier and evaporative cooling kicks in?

Edit getting heavier here now but still mainly rain.....

Edited January 17, 2018 by Kentish Snowman

[Hessle Owl]

Expecting nothing but rain here anything else will be an bonus. Last few winters have being dire for snowfall for low lying areas apart from transient minor dustings least seen some snow from this spell and this winter has being better for cold and frost. But being years since an significant winter snowfall last one was Jan 13. Guess was spoilt from 2009-2013 even the good old Northerly toppler from the noughties delivered lots of snow here even it only lasted 2 or 3 days. Still another good six weeks of winter yet so fingers crossed.