North West England Regional Weather Discussion

[Wildswimmer Pete]

3 minutes ago, Nicholas B said:

Imagine being on the front in that!

Even worse, on the Russian front

[karyo]

More and more cloud now here.

[Summer of 95]

1 hour ago, Day 10 said:

Yes, all this marginal crap seems to be far more common these days.

Every time since 2010 we have managed to get anything from a NW'ly, the temperature has inexplicably risen, from the N/NW, almost immediately afterwards. 2014-15 was the worst: starts to snow, settles, NW'ly picks up, rains/melts. Happened about 3 or 4 times. And last January it just rained from a NW'ly with -8 uppers. 

In times gone by it would clear from the NW and freeze, not melt. Colder air would follow the snow, now it's warmer air. Something's up with NW'lies these days.

[WillinGlossop]

1 minute ago, Summer of 95 said:

Every time since 2010 we have managed to get anything from a NW'ly, the temperature has inexplicably risen, from the N/NW, almost immediately afterwards. 2014-15 was the worst: starts to snow, settles, NW'ly picks up, rains/melts. Happened about 3 or 4 times. And last January it just rained from a NW'ly with -8 uppers. 

In times gone by it would clear from the NW and freeze, not melt. Colder air would follow the snow, now it's warmer air. Something's up with NW'lies these days.

Matty23 in midland forum says its snowing in shrewsbury

[WillinGlossop]

11 minutes ago, karyo said:

More and more cloud now here.

Convection from irish sea.... when wind swings around.... could be fun and games later on....  convective snow can be the best....  ie heavier localised snow.... 

[karyo]

1 minute ago, WillinGlossop said:

Convection from irish sea.... when wind swings around.... could be fun and games later on....  convective snow can be the best....  ie heavier localised snow.... 

Looking at the sky to my northwest I won't be surprised to catch a snow/hail shower soon.

 

[Summer of 95]

1 minute ago, WillinGlossop said:

Matty23 in midland forum says its snowing in shrewsbury

It is, but only a wet brief shower. Although it reached the ground as snow (surprisingly), it's never going to stick unless the temp drops at least 3-4 degrees, and stays there. Evaporative cooling presumably, works to get falling snow, less so lying snow.

[karyo]

7 minutes ago, Summer of 95 said:

It is, but only a wet brief shower. Although it reached the ground as snow (surprisingly), it's never going to stick unless the temp drops at least 3-4 degrees, and stays there. Evaporative cooling presumably, works to get falling snow, less so lying snow.

Surprisingly that shower developed over land. 

[karyo]

Looking at the raintoday radar an organised line has formed from North Wales to the far north of Northern Ireland.

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

Just had light snkw shower

[karyo]

5 minutes ago, Stratocumulus perlucidus said:

Just had light snkw shower

Where in Merseyside are you?

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

St helens but closer to burtonwood warrington

[karyo]

4 minutes ago, Stratocumulus perlucidus said:

St helens but closer to burtonwood warrington

Tht's good considering you are close to the sea.

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

Just now, karyo said:

Tht's good considering you are close to the sea.

Not that close really. We do better here than most further from coast

[Wildswimmer Pete]

Cloud (Cu) now building from the NW, wind seems to have dropped, still dry.

Liverpool METAR: EGGP 131420Z 32022G33KT 9999 VCSH FEW031 SCT039 05/M01 Q1013

TAF: EGGP 131237Z 1312/1412 32022G35KT 9999 SCT045 TEMPO 1312/1315 SHGS BKN010CB BECMG 1315/1318 33009KT PROB30 TEMPO 1321/1409 32018G32KT 1200 SHSN BKN006CB

ATIS @ 14:20Z wind 320 22kt gusting 33kt visibility >10 showers visible temp 5C DP -1C pressure 1013hpa high wind warning in force

Edit: Just been out: still blowing a gale and bloody cold.

Edited January 13, 2017 by Wildswimmer Pete

[I Cumbria Marra I]

Thundersnow on IOM

[itsnowjoke]

Well woke up to a slight covering which has now gone feels like the temperature is dropping again

[Miamay]

Still very windy and its an icy wind. 

[Day 10]

Important 12'z coming up to see if the cold is going to back west medium term, hope so then it could get really interesting.

[Geordiesnow]

1 hour ago, Summer of 95 said:

Every time since 2010 we have managed to get anything from a NW'ly, the temperature has inexplicably risen, from the N/NW, almost immediately afterwards. 2014-15 was the worst: starts to snow, settles, NW'ly picks up, rains/melts. Happened about 3 or 4 times. And last January it just rained from a NW'ly with -8 uppers. 

In times gone by it would clear from the NW and freeze, not melt. Colder air would follow the snow, now it's warmer air. Something's up with NW'lies these days.

Whilst the Irish sea no doubt had an affect why for some it was rain/sleet, we got to remember the low was deep which created a mild sector which in turn allows temps/dew temps to rise slightly especially with winds coming in from the sea, I knew from experience with the North sea you need uppers of -8 and more to have a chance of seeing snow falling when your close to the sea. Of course other factors come into play such as thicknesses for example.

I think the weather front event went as expected if albeit it was further West than some BBC forecasts suggested. A lot of areas got snowfall but those not far from the coast got sleet or rain, such is life, nothing to do with climate change or anything like that.

Tonight is similar really, expect rain/sleet/hail nearer the coast you are with snow further inland, I suspect convection won't be all that extensive because thicknesses were not as low as last night but the potential for some areas to get a fresh covering is there for sure.

[Frost HoIIow]

Just patches of snow left around here on shaded grassy areas.

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

Low to mid level cloud forming off scotland coast to welsh coast. Quite rapid growth too. Not sure of the significance though.

[Chris.R]

Liverpool TAF  still going for just snow showers overnight, and it wasn't last night, now between 21:00-09:00. 

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

Just now, Chris.R said:

Liverpool TAF  still going for just snow showers overnight, and it wasn't last night, now between 21:00-09:00. 

Gonna be marginal tonight though imho. Milder air mixing in tonight for a time

[Pint Vulger]

Still plenty of lying snow here in Vegas tops,been a lovely afternoon ,no wind and fairly warm in sun,clear skies now ,looks like we are set for a cold night with frost.