North West England Regional Weather Discussion

[WillinGlossop]

http://www.maccinfo.com/Flash/

snowing pretty heavily at flash....

[toggerob]

Just noticed the snow up in Buxton, nothing down this-side of the Goyt at 210m.

[Weather-history]

Icy outside, iciest morning of the winter this far.

[C11ady]

Bit of snow here this mornin.

[iand61]

Nowt here other than frost.

never mind I wasn't expecting anything so not disappointed.

[Day 10]

21 hours ago, Chris.R said:

 After today, think I'm going to have to switch allegiance to your lot lol! 

Haha. They are certainly making up for the lack of snow. Keep it up I say

[dodge]

How awful it would have been today had we been in very cold air, watching that band of rain (snow on it's northern edge) tease our region whilst never really getting here.   Thankfully it's all rain and the south can keep it, although after a bright start it's now slate grey and overcast.  Resigning myself to an unsettled end to winter, with mostly cold rain intermixed with slightly milder rain at times.

Edited January 29, 2017 by dodgeredee

[Iceaxecrampon]

Quick journey up to Oxenholme today on the Virgin WCML

Quite a surprise to see how much of a covering the Bowland Fells had.

[Weather-history]

Wow, this was two years ago today

 

[Chris.R]

Today marks 2 years since the last falling snow here.  It will be 4 years in March since the last lying snow of more than 1 cm depth.  Just over 6 years since the last lying snow that lasted more than 36 hours. 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Chris.R

[I remember Atlantic 252]

58 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

Wow, this was two years ago today

 

flown by! not as good here, but did have lying snow, quick thaw though, late Jan, the sun is higher and stronger

[damianslaw]

3 hours ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

flown by! not as good here, but did have lying snow, quick thaw though, late Jan, the sun is higher and stronger

Yes remember we had had quite a few light snowfalls late Jan 2015, very shortlived fleeting affairs, snow settled during the evening hours only to dissapear during the day, but the sun only being one factor, main factor, the depth of snow being very slight no more than an inch, and upper air temps being on the wrong side of marginal for snow to stick, dewpoints non-conducive.

It isn't until late February that the sun has the power to override cold uppers and deep snow cover to cause a thaw, and a cloudy day in Mid march with cold uppers enables the snow to stay in situ. Think of all those late Feb/early March days when the snow has remained thick and only partially thawed in sun exposed locations. 

[Day 10]

Time to start paying a bit more attention to the models again... Is a cold second half of Feb beckoning?

[HafrenLMP1]

20 hours ago, Chris.R said:

 Today marks 2 years since the last falling snow here.  It will be 4 years in March since the last line snow of more than 1 cm depth.  Just over 6 years since the last lying snow that lasted more than 36 hours. 

If that is when I think it was - then it was late afternoon, about 15:30-16:15; about 15-20 mins of falling snow.....and no sooner had it fallen, the sun came out - and it disappeared...

[dodge]

I think Dec 2010 was the last time deep snowfall stayed on the ground for more than a week here.... since then there's been a few snow 'events' Jan 2013 (although places to the west did well out of that Cheshire/Isle of Man/Cumbria etc..) but they've not caused the disruption that the freeze of Dec 2010 achieved.  The last 3 years have been particularly poor.  Last year was dire, it's been a bit colder this time and less wet, but not 'snowy' wintry...yet.

Edited January 30, 2017 by dodgeredee

[Frost HoIIow]

1 hour ago, dodgeredee said:

I think Dec 2010 was the last time deep snowfall stayed on the ground for more than a week here.... since then there's been a few snow 'events' Jan 2013 (although places to the west did well out of that Cheshire/Isle of Man/Cumbria etc..) but they've not caused the disruption that the freeze of Dec 2010 achieved.  The last 3 years have been particularly poor.  Last year was dire, it's been a bit colder this time and less wet, but not 'snowy' wintry...yet.

Yep it's been poor for lasting snow cover for what seems a long time. Last heavy (6 inch/15cm) snowfall here was 21st Jan 2013 but even that didn't last on the ground for more than 3 or 4 days I think. Seems ages ago since Dec 2010 now, what a month that was. Dec 2009 through to Feb 2010 was very good too.

[cheshire snow]

4 hours ago, Day 10 said:

Time to start paying a bit more attention to the models again... Is a cold second half of Feb beckoning?

No No No not been drawn in YET have to admit this evening charts look decent,but no

Not getting my hopes up yet.

C.S. 

[Day 10]

7 minutes ago, cheshire snow said:

No No No not been drawn in YET have to admit this evening charts look decent,but no

Not getting my hopes up yet.

C.S. 

LIAR!

[Chris.R]

2 hours ago, HafrenLMP1 said:

If that is when I think it was - then it was late afternoon, about 15:30-16:15; about 15-20 mins of falling snow.....and no sooner had it fallen, the sun came out - and it disappeared...

Yep I think so.  We were under a streamer which dropped the temperatures enough for snow to fall but then as the showers cleared the temperatures recovered and it all melted.

Although Jan/March 2013 was very snowy, nothing stuck around for more than a day, and the epic Dec 2010 was the last time snow stayed around; for 10 days on that occasion. 

[cheshire snow]

Just now, Day 10 said:

LIAR!

No serious mate as BA stated earlier we need the block to set up in the correct place, we could get SW mild gunk,or a screaming snowy Easterly SSW is not a gurantee for cold in the UK,but you already know that.let's see how things are looking at weekend,then one way or another I will through my hat in the ring

C.S

[Day 10]

18 hours ago, cheshire snow said:

No serious mate as BA stated earlier we need the block to set up in the correct place, we could get SW mild gunk,or a screaming snowy Easterly SSW is not a gurantee for cold in the UK,but you already know that.let's see how things are looking at weekend,then one way or another I will through my hat in the ring

C.S

Models still ticking along OK.

[cheshire snow]

1 hour ago, Day 10 said:

Models still ticking along OK.

Yes ticking away OK

Forgive me for been so sceptical at this stage.How many times have we been here before,this has the potential for been a very significant spell of weather watching which has held my interest for a few weeks now.

lets face it IF the SSW worked in our favour we are not looking at a 48hr cold snap,we could be looking at our most severe weather since 2010/2013....That's why I am so nervous so many things can go Pete Tongue

As I said last night lets see how we look at the weekend.

C.S 

Edited January 31, 2017 by cheshire snow

[Day 10]

2 hours ago, cheshire snow said:

Yes ticking away OK

Forgive me for been so sceptical at this stage.How many times have we been here before,this has the potential for been a very significant spell of weather watching which has held my interest for a few weeks now.

lets face it IF the SSW worked in our favour we are not looking at a 48hr cold snap,we could be looking at our most severe weather since 2010/2013....That's why I am so nervous so many things can go Pete Tongue

As I said last night lets see how we look at the weekend.

C.S 

Yes agree completely. I feel the same way, ready (or not) for the usual Larry Letdown.

If this does land it could be here for a few weeks and yes with "proper" snow in the mix. Some of the uppers being dragged into the east are bitter!

Anyway 12z's up next, what will our tone be in a few hours???

[alr1970]

Weather warning out now for winds gusting to 60/70 mph on Friday.

[cheshire snow]

1 hour ago, Day 10 said:

Yes agree completely. I feel the same way, ready (or not) for the usual Larry Letdown.

If this does land it could be here for a few weeks and yes with "proper" snow in the mix. Some of the uppers being dragged into the east are bitter!

Anyway 12z's up next, what will our tone be in a few hours???

Good consistently from the UKMO and GFS in a weeks time the GFS has snow flurries 

For Eastern counties a front aproaches from the west turning readily to snow but not making much progress as it hits the huge block.

C.S.