North West England Weather discussion 16/01/16 Onwards

[bradymk]

10 minutes ago, Backtrack said:

You're wrong. It'll be the other way around, if anything. Rain to snow. 

Not sure Backtrack. For that area, the more east the precip is, more likely of it turning to rain/sleet or being rain/sleet all along. We'll see, tricky one. 

Although updated arpege may suggest otherwise! 

Edited January 16, 2016 by bradythemole

[Liam J]

All frost on the rooftops has now melted! The snow didn't even settle on the frost... Fail 

[Spah1]

2 minutes ago, captaincroc said:

The ARPEGE 6z is out and it has shifted the snow line slightly west which is better for our region...

What web site is that on? 

[Dr. Astro]

Looking at the latest models, I would say places from Warrington to Manchester could do surprisingly well out of this sliding system. 

It's still early so don't be disheartened at the moment, were only at 1PM. 

Temperatures will begin to fall again soon enough, although a little rise is expected around this time. 

It's going to be more of a now cast, rather than a forecast, as some places 5 miles down the road will be getting snow, and the other side will be rain/sleet until later on in the night. 

I would expect the Peaks to do well, aroundMacclesfield Forest / Teggs Nose way. 

[captaincroc]

Just now, Spah1 said:

What web site is that on? 

Here's the link buddy....

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/arpege.php?ech=3&mode=24&map=330

 

Here is the link to the NMM Model too

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm.php?ech=3&mode=1&map=5

 

[dodge]

It could be that light snow which could fall for a 1,000 years and still not settle to leave a covering.

[Liam J]

Just now, dodgeredee said:

It could be that light snow which could fall for a 1,000 years and still not settle to leave a covering.

Indeed, if there wasn't snow falling you'd just think we'd had a rain shower! 

[Dr. Astro]

2 minutes ago, *Sub*Zero* said:

Indeed, if there wasn't snow falling you'd just think we'd had a rain shower! 

Nothing worse than that Liam... 

Looking at the radar it does seem a few more heavier bursts are coming through rather than the light precipitation. 

[I Cumbria Marra I]

The snow is very wet

[captaincroc]

Silly question but when to temps peak in the day at this time of year?

Just wondering, as there are clearer spells here now and would be a great for temps to drop before the precipitation moves in.

[Liam J]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Astro said:

Nothing worse than that Liam... 

Looking at the radar it does seem a few more heavier bursts are coming through rather than the light precipitation. 

Just light so far and melting instantly on ground contact

[Liam J]

1 minute ago, captaincroc said:

Silly question but when to temps peak in the day at this time of year?

Just wondering, as there are clearer spells here now and would be a great for temps to drop before the precipitation moves in.

My max temp was 2-3pm yesterday but should start to fall after 3pm as sun gets lower & under clear skies of course.

[chiffer]

1 minute ago, captaincroc said:

Silly question but when to temps peak in the day at this time of year?

Just wondering, as there are clearer spells here now and would be a great for temps to drop before the precipitation moves in.

The peak should be about now, temps should start falling soon.

[Spah1]

Well the arpege model run looks great. At least the prep is going straight over me. Sleet or snow??? Heavy enough to settle????

if it was just a bit colder

[captaincroc]

2 minutes ago, *Sub*Zero* said:

My max temp was 2-3pm yesterday but should start to fall after 3pm as sun gets lower & under clear skies of course.

 

2 minutes ago, chiffer said:

The peak should be about now, temps should start falling soon.

 

Cheers.    Just seems 'darker' now so hopefully the temps will drop soon as we can only be a temp or two above freezing if that.

[Darren Bown]

Is it doing anything in Liverpool? Moderate precip on radar there.

[Steve_Alltami]

Could be some surprises... Here in NE Wales close to the Cheshire border we've had light rain which is now turning to sleet and wet snow. 

 

Looks like evap cooling could also help.

[pip22]

http://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/weather/yellow-warning-snow-southport-west-10744324?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Yellow Warning of Snow for Southport and West Lancashire

People living across Southport, Formby and West Lancashire are getting ready to let it snow, after the Met Office this morning issued a Yellow Warning of Snow for North West England.

The 'Be Aware' warning is in place from 11am today (Saturday, January 16) and lasts until 6am on Sunday (January 17).

Areas covered by the warning include: Blackburn with Darwen, Blackpool, Cheshire East, Cheshire West and Chester, Cumbria, Greater Manchester, Halton, Lancashire, Merseyside & Warrington.

It follows sub-zero temperatures overnight and into this morning, which have left cars, roads and pavements left covered in ice.

[captaincroc]

Interestingly Saint Snow on TWO has just said  (just before 1pm) that the temps there have started to fall away and he is already at -0.2c and he is in St Helens.

[Chris.R]

Light mix of large snowflakes and small  raindrops just started here. 2.6°C and beginning to drop again. 

[Snowy L]

1.9c here in Southeast Liverpool.  Temperature rise definitely slowing down. Birmingham and Coventry at 4c and they are expected a lot more snow than Liverpool.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Snowy L

[Liam J]

Stopped now, would have preferred it to have stayed clear all day maybe the frost would have lingered in places all day, now all wet. 

[Backtrack]

28 minutes ago, bradythemole said:

Not sure Backtrack. For that area, the more east the precip is, more likely of it turning to rain/sleet or being rain/sleet all along. We'll see, tricky one. 

Although updated arpege may suggest otherwise! 

Evaporative cooling should play a large part  it'll start as rain I'm guessing, turning to snow after dark, this is my view anyway. 

[Chris.R]

Ok proper snow now but very light!!!

[Snowy L]

Just now, Chris.R said:

Ok proper snow now but very light!!!

Very encouraging. XC weather saying 4c at Crosby.