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#NameOurStorms: is it a good idea?


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Should we keep the #NameOurStorms scheme?  

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  1. 1. Should we keep the #NameOurStorms scheme?

    • Yes, I like it!
    • No, it's a waste of time.
    • Not bothered.


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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian
5 hours ago, Freeze said:

What confusion and a mess that would be, would that mean we skip a letter in the naming or have 2 different names for the same storm?

The Uk Met Office and Met Eireann work together to name storms affecting the UK and Ireland, they chose from the same list. There are two lows this weekend, Freya being the second one to come our way. Sometimes other Met services like Portuguese or Meteo France name a Storm out in the Atlantic, that name is adopted but just interrupts our list.

Comparisons against previous years will be lower I suppose because the Portugal/Spain/France combo has recently  started naming.

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian

No name for the tonight/Tues/Weds low. Which will be quite an event affecting most of the UK. 

Met Office aren't naming it today, are they waiting for Met Eireann to do it instead?

What is the reason behind naming storms - To communicate better with the public. The yellow warnings have their issues, almost becoming background noise now. Yet yesterday southern England had a fair few trees fall which would have caused big impacts if it had been this morning rather than Sunday. 

This large low will bring heavy rain, hill snow and widespread strong winds, gales ,even severe gales with windy weather for a long time. MIght as well name it, the amber thing has gone out of the window anyway (FReya didn't have one) It's an event , give it a name, if this NameourStorms truly is still a thing. 

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  • Location: Cobham Surrey
  • Weather Preferences: clear skies , hard frost , snow !
  • Location: Cobham Surrey

I think naming the storms is a good thing , its just we need consistency. Yesterdays should have been named and in a city like London its 24/7 people work and go out week round , also with transport Sunday is the busiest day of the week normally at Heathrow.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Today the wind was stronger than with Gareth or Freya but it wasn't a named storm. Mmmmmm.

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  • Location: Benson, Oxfordshire
  • Location: Benson, Oxfordshire
2 hours ago, The PIT said:

Today the wind was stronger than with Gareth or Freya but it wasn't a named storm. Mmmmmm.

And Saturday looks worse still (At least IMBY). Mind you, the Sun have named it Hellstorm Hannah for us

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

The first storm of the year. Gusts into the 50's through out the day and it's not named.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

4 of the national press have decided to name tomorrows storm as Storm Hannah the met office & met eireann have not named it

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Even Network Rail south-east have wrongly named it presumably looked at one of the 4 nationals instead of the met office

 

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Again this one should be named by the looks of this mornings forecast.

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59 minutes ago, The PIT said:

Again this one should be named by the looks of this mornings forecast.

Yes, been raising the question myself.. It's almost like they name them when they feel like it.. 

72mph gust has been recorded in an exposed spot in wales.. 

Freya bought those kinds of wind speeds and this system is expected to deepen more as its crosses us 

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Hasn't made 50 here but fairly breezy though.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

It's a storm by any other name? Who cares what it's called? Naming storms only leads to petty bickering...and as for all the 'my warning's bigger than your warning', malarkey?:wallbash:

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian
17 hours ago, Summer Sun said:

Even Network Rail south-east have wrongly named it presumably looked at one of the 4 nationals instead of the met office

 

and the Environment Agency, another Met Office partner 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover

I'm not sure the met it's self has named any of this Years storms, it is a joint system with the Irish met, and so far they have named storms, and rightfully so, that will cause them problems. May be to stop the confusion, two name lists need to be made, that way if our met names a storm, at some point, we can then rightfully, or wrongly criticise them for it.

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian

Poll on Netweather Twitter 

I think as an event, for the whole of Saturday it being named Storm Hannah would have worked as a communication tool for the forecast. Which is the idea behind this project.  

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
2 hours ago, Jo Farrow said:

Poll on Netweather Twitter 

I think as an event, for the whole of Saturday it being named Storm Hannah would have worked as a communication tool for the forecast. Which is the idea behind this project.  

They have in Ireland which is who named them in the first place. It works, as long as people pay attention to which met agency does the naming, and do not expect the system to have behave the same all over, which they never will.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

I'm not sure that, apart from constant discussion (apart from among weather-based website members) the general public pays a lot of notice really: the tabloid press have always adorned their front pages with overheated weather-stories, anyway...?

And, anywho, Joe Plank will always want to be on the front pages, for trying to drive 50 miles through 19-foot snowdrifts and freezing fog?

 

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian

Not #StormHannah blog from Met Office https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/  Hardly addresses the crux of the issue. And it's easy to argue after the event, but flood forecasting in association with the Environment agencies generally outputs strong forecasts for when the rain hits the ground. They seemed to be vigorous in their message of flooding for Saturday when people would be venturing out and about.

A lot of info about winds in this text. The flooding got the headlines. And the winds the other weekend in southern England managed to bring down a lot of trees with no leaves on them.

Those criteria listed seem more for their severe weather warnings and the impacts, the storm name is a communication tool, in addition and alongside, not to replicate. The whole impact bit is causing enough issues with the yellow/amber warnings.  I think the Met Office, in this instance, isn't considering the public, as an end user. And there are too many behind the scenes nuances to getting a storm name announced (and the random issue times). 

If Saturday's low had been named Storm Hannah what would it have mattered? The public could still be more aware that there was severe weather coming, the winds, heavy rain and lots of flooding and snow. The broadcasters and media forecasters could have got their teeth into the #StormHannah story and message, and Idris would be next on the list. Big deal. Why keep holding back, just so the Daily Express is wrong? Loads of the Met Eireann named ones don't affect the UK much. I don't mind. The list is 21-ish long, there are plenty to use up. Maybe Rainstorm Hannah, WindStorm Erik, Snowstorm Emma! 

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

Shower of a Met Office policy.

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian

#StormHannah from Met Eireaan 

thread 

 

Edited by Jo Farrow
add link to new thread for HAnnah
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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
On 16 December 2018 at 19:15, Weather-history said:

As far as I'm aware these are the systems that have been named by various Met agencies that have hit some part of the U.K. regardless the strength of the system when it hit the UK since the start of Autumn. 

Helene, Ali, Bronagh, Callum, Diana, Etienne, Deirdre

 

Erik, Freya, Gareth, Hannah, Miguel

How many storms have been originally named by the Met Office since this system was started?

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Name our storms needs suggestions for the next years names

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This week the Met Office is offering people the chance to get involved with next season’s storm names by asking them to send in suggestions.

Over 10,000 names were received when ‘Name our Storms’ was first introduced in 2015 by the Met Office and Met Éireann, the national weather provider in the Republic of Ireland.  Now coming into its fifth year, the Met Office is once again asking people to get involved by sending in suggestions for storm names.

So how can you get your suggestions on the list?

This week the Met Office will be opening up their social media channels and inviting people to send in suggestions - look out for instructions on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat throughout the week. People can also send their suggestions via email to nameourstorms@metoffice.gov.uk.  Met Éireann will also be asking the Irish public to send in their suggestions this week.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2019/call-for-storm-names

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  • Location: South East UK, Reigate
  • Weather Preferences: Wake me up when the storms arrive
  • Location: South East UK, Reigate

Naming UK storms is not a concept I have ever valued. The majority of "storms" consist of weather that 99% of UK citizens are perfectly familiar with (think: Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day).

How many named storms have I 'endured' where, on meeting a neighbour, we shrug and say "A bit windy out."  Most folks I know have no interest in naming storms, which are considered normal weather anyway. The system feels like a useless virtue-signalling exercise that entertains the tabloids.

UK storms are nothing compared to the hurricanes and tropical storms experienced elsewhere. If the Met Office feel this naming system is worth the money, time and effort wasted upon it, then names should be reserved for the rare but significant storms that really punch above their weight.

But that depends upon being able to forecast them accurately...eh?  (Hello Mr Fish...)

And please do not get me started on the dreadful Yellow Weather Warnings (which should be named to "Weather Advisories" and toned down a bit).

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