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And here's a thought, if Metra were to win it, maybe we could end up with Dan Corbett back on our screens! 

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1 minute ago, Summer Sun said:

 

A big shame. I had a lot of respect for him after he got genuinely angry at the Express headlines live on BBC News once!

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Noticed a few differences in the forecasts lately and theres been a few times you've wondered which model they've been looking at. I'm waiting for the day when there systems say a quite day and met office has warnings out for bad weather. Got to happen when you're using two different systems. 

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A bit of background , I work as a cricket groundsman in North Lincs , as a result I keep more than a close eye on the forecasts , generally within 7 days max but critical is the next 24/48 hours especially with regards to applying chemicals or leaving the covers on , since the change and especially in 2018 I have been let down more times than I count. Typically I can be at the ground around lunchtime , check the forecast and it says dry so I leave the covers off and go home , within a few hours it starts to cloud over , I recheck the forecast and it's now saying 80% chance of rain , at short notice ( within 12 hours ) to go from 0 to 80% chance of rain seems unacceptable  , I'm now trying to change years of habit of trusting the BBC forecasts above all others because since they changed the contract my practical experience is that the accuracy has declined. 

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I sympathise. For example the BBC forecast for Hull presently gives a 58% probability of rain at 1300 today. That's only 35 minutes from now, yet a glance at the radar tells me that the showers are all over the North Sea and coastal extremities like Flamborough Head and Cleethorpes. I prefer the Met Office site for short term forecasts: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/map/gcrzgymcy#?map=CloudAndRain&zoom=7

 

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2 minutes ago, 4caster said:

I sympathise. For example the BBC forecast for Hull presently gives a 58% probability of rain at 1300 today. That's only 35 minutes from now, yet a glance at the radar tells me that the showers are all over the North Sea and coastal extremities like Flamborough Head and Cleethorpes. I prefer the Met Office site for short term forecasts: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/map/gcrzgymcy#?map=CloudAndRain&zoom=7

 

I appreciate the difficulties of the forecasters , I am not expecting 100% accuracy ten days in advance , I know that is unrealistic but you cannot go from 0% to 80% within a few hours , something is wrong there and for those like me for whom an accurate short range forecast is important that is enough for me to move away from the BBC , I now use the WeatherQuest radar to see where stuff is and am trying to get into the habit of using the metoffice for the 0-48 hrs info. Your post above is a perfect example of what I mean. 

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It is impossible in scattered showery situations (as over the North Sea today) to have any confidence in the forecast FOR A PARTICULAR PLACE for more than an hour or two ahead. One can predict the MOVEMENT of showers, but it's usually impossible to predict when and where each shower will decay, and when and where new ones will pop up (which is what they do, literally!).

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10 minutes ago, 4caster said:

It is impossible in scattered showery situations (as over the North Sea today) to have any confidence in the forecast FOR A PARTICULAR PLACE for more than an hour or two ahead. One can predict the MOVEMENT of showers, but it's usually impossible to predict when and where each shower will decay, and when and where new ones will pop up (which is what they do, literally!).

I agree but my point is in that case the chance of showers should not be indicated as 0% , more like 50% , if I know there is a chance then while I accept that it could mean no rain at all there is also a decent chance I will , at which stage I will make any preparations I need. To go from " it's not going to rain today" to "rain expected in the next 30 minutes" within a couple of hours is just poor. 

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On 30/06/2018 at 00:02, Nick L said:

A big shame. I had a lot of respect for him after he got genuinely angry at the Express headlines live on BBC News once!

Phil loves a rant. He is doing some shifts freelance.

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Big contrast between the met forecast and the Beeb forecast. Beeb over doing the snow threat away from Scotland. Met office mainly Scotland which looks to me the only place we will see any major Snowfall.

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BBC weather are getting their evening broadcast on BBC one cut from 2.5 minutes to 1.5 minutes from March 4th

The change is part of cuts to the news at 10 which is getting shortened by 4 minutes along with regional news

The revamp is to allow BBC Three programmes to be shown on BBC one between Monday & Wednesday

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18 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

BBC weather are getting their evening broadcast on BBC one cut from 2.5 minutes to 1.5 minutes from March 4th

The change is part of cuts to the news at 10 which is getting shortened by 4 minutes along with regional news

The revamp is to allow BBC Three programmes to be shown on BBC one between Monday & Wednesday

No problems with that providing one thing - the license fee goes down not up!

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Hardly watch BBC forecasts any more, caught one the other day and saw they STILL haven't improved those abysmal graphics. The ITV ones are far better, at least you can easily tell the difference between clear/cloudy/fog/snow.

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