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Yarmy Maestro

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  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Hoar Frost, Snow, Misty Autumn mornings
  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL
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Don't know about official definitions, but in my mind there has to be a flow, and that can presumably happen only after significant accumulation.

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
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Don't know about official definitions, but in my mind there has to be a flow, and that can presumably happen only after significant accumulation.

 

Yep, if there's no movement it's not a glacier.

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Polar Maritime Maestro

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Here is the 'provisional' snow patch count from Firfly. A record year on the cards as the figures speak for themselves..!! And this is NOT the final count. Thats what a cool Summer can do!

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SnOwFeSt Apprentice

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  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
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Wowzers! Could anyone kindly post a tally of the actual survivors for each year, for comparison. My understanding was that although 2014 had many patches left at this stage, not many survived in the end due to the mild autumn?

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SnOwFeSt Apprentice

SnOwFeSt

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  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
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Had a little look myself for the past few years:

 

2014/15 - 21

2013/14 - 6

2012-13 - 6

2011-12 - 2

2010-11 - 6

2009-10 - 6

2008-9 - 12

 

So, by my very rough estimate and all things being equal, we could be set for about 50 survivors to next winter.

 

Staggering to think that about 90% of patches at the end of August wont survive to winter when we are perhaps only 12 weeks away from lasting snows.

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Yarmy Maestro

Yarmy

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  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Hoar Frost, Snow, Misty Autumn mornings
  • Location: Near King's Lynn 13.68m ASL
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Here is the 'provisional' snow patch count from Firfly. A record year on the cards as the figures speak for themselves..!! And this is NOT the final count. Thats what a cool Summer can do!

 

That'll be on the front page of the Daily Express tomorrow. :ninja:

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firefly Explorer

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Had a little look myself for the past few years:

 

2014/15 - 21

2013/14 - 6

2012-13 - 6

2011-12 - 2

2010-11 - 6

2009-10 - 6

2008-9 - 12

 

So, by my very rough estimate and all things being equal, we could be set for about 50 survivors to next winter.

 

Staggering to think that about 90% of patches at the end of August wont survive to winter when we are perhaps only 12 weeks away from lasting snows.

I'm not sure there'll be 50 survivors, but there'll certainly be a sair few. Almost certainly more thank last year, assuming g the rest of the year is 'normal.
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SnOwFeSt Apprentice

SnOwFeSt

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  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
  • Location: West leeds, 115m asl
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perhaps I'm getting a little carried away! Could be fun to predict a final 'count' though.

 

Based on your advice, I'll lower my prediction and plump for 36...

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Mark Neal. Seasoned

Mark Neal.

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  • Location: Headington,Oxfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Headington,Oxfordshire
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Here is the 'provisional' snow patch count from Firfly. A record year on the cards as the figures speak for themselves..!! And this is NOT the final count. Thats what a cool Summer can do!

Well thats it then, going to be a severe winter.... Waits for Corbyn & Madden to find some link between Scottish Snow patches and a winter forecast...  :fool:

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Please remember all credit in this thread goes to Firefly! Lots of hard work involved, And many miles off slogging up hills!

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  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury
  • Weather Preferences: Enjoy the weather, you can't take it with you 😎
  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury
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Wowzers! Could anyone kindly post a tally of the actual survivors for each year, for comparison. My understanding was that although 2014 had many patches left at this stage, not many survived in the end due to the mild autumn?

There certainly wont be any melt next week for the Scottish snow patches into the first week of Autumn... :)

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Ravelin

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  • Location: Tullynessle/Westhill
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and snowy or warm and dry
  • Location: Tullynessle/Westhill
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I like the exponential trend....  :cold:

 

Yeah, you'd be looking at 1200 or so next year if that was the case.

 

 

A couple of years further on and I'd be expecting a patch in my north facing back garden year round. :whistling:

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Methuselah

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
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Yeah, you'd be looking at 1200 or so next year if that was the case.

 

 

 

A couple of years further on and I'd be expecting a patch in my north facing back garden year round. :whistling:

Exponential observations? :)

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Polar Maritime Maestro

Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Thanks to everyone for their continued interest! It's been a very busy few weeks.

Keep your eyes peeled tomorrow in the press. Apparently there could be a few stories and pictures regarding the snow survey last weekend.

Cheers

 

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2015/08/28/pics-show-ben-nevis-snow-caves-so-big-they-will-last-until-winter/

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Polar Maritime Maestro

Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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And this. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7551363@N06/20794066078/in/dateposted-public/

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Polar Maritime Maestro

Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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A touch of snow possible Wednesday with freeze/thaw cycles all week. Will certainly help retain..

 

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Polar Maritime Maestro

Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Polar Maritime Maestro

Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Well done Helen.

 

The snow-hunter: this woman has skied 70 months in a row after beating cancer

 

http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/snow-hunter-woman-skied-70-6338835

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Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Sorry can not help there, Works for me? Shows footage of the Ford T driving down Ben Nevis in 1911 with snow patches and the old weather observatory. 

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Polar Maritime

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
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Try this one John, The BBC seem to have cottoned on to it... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-34113797?SThisFB

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