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I personally really am not getting worried about the current 10+ day outlook - I think if you'd have told those in here three days ago., let alone 10 days ago that we'd be having a regional snow event of some description this week, you'd have been in the (rampy) minority). It looks cold well into next week, and I think we will see a few more opportunities for snow before the week is out. :)

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I think those going round in circles dissecting forecasts from different forecasters (or the same ones at different times) are just going to tie themselves in knots here. You're in the SE of England,

yeah she just text me the same-

Just had a peak at the 18z UKMO (meso) and it shows the centre of the small low moving SE across the Midlands around 3am then across SE England around 6am, sleet/snow showers swirling around this low

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COAB! We're on day 1 of what is potentially a week-long cold snap and we're not even into what is traditionally the snowiest month of the year. Let's get some perspective please? Really bad winters are very rare in this country, cold snaps are more usual and that is what we're getting. If you want snowdrifts, white-outs, 14 ice days on the bounce, lake-effect blizzards and the guarantee of snow every winter can I respectfully suggest you try living somewhere other than "Southeast England and East Anglia".

 

 

I dread to think how some of you will cope when a real life crisis hits you.

Then when people do move away, we will see the likes of 1987 and 62/63 happen with East Anglia and Southeast being cut off! 

Patience folks, I'm sure you will see some snow by the time February is out!

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Glorious winter sunshine here now. 2C

Interesting wording for Tuesday, perhaps suggesting that snow showers may become more widespread over the region instead of being restricted the the usual areas in a northerly flow.

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commuting back from London yesterday afternoon was slightly weird.  It is quite usual to not have snow in London itself but to hit the snowline about 30 miles north but yesterday I didn't hit the snow belt until literally 5 miles from Northampton then it went from green to white almost instantly.  People wouldn't believe how weather could change in such a short distance.  We had quite a covering in Northampton and more overnight.  this morning was a bit of a challenge getting into work though.

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Glorious winter sunshine here now. 2C

Interesting wording for Tuesday, perhaps suggesting that snow showers may become more widespread over the region instead of being restricted the the usual areas in a northerly flow.

Yep as the flow veers to more East of North there is the chance of a few surprises making their way inland.

 

Not too dissimilar to this:

 

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Then as the flow veered NE'ly during the day areas of snow were bought inland across the Eastern side of England:

 

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Result - gridlock on the M11 from unexpected snowfall and about 6 inches of snow.

 

Expect the unexpected.

 

SK

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Then when people do move away, we will see the likes of 1987 and 62/63 happen with East Anglia and Southeast being cut off! 

Patience folks, I'm sure you will see some snow by the time February is out!

 

COAB! We're on day 1 of what is potentially a week-long cold snap and we're not even into what is traditionally the snowiest month of the year. Let's get some perspective please? Really bad winters are very rare in this country, cold snaps are more usual and that is what we're getting. If you want snowdrifts, white-outs, 14 ice days on the bounce, lake-effect blizzards and the guarantee of snow every winter can I respectfully suggest you try living somewhere other than "Southeast England and East Anglia".

 

 

I dread to think how some of you will cope when a real life crisis hits you.

I can understand some folks getting frustrated especially if snow is such a big deal to them.  I think your suggestion of moving somewhere else is a little harsh though.  I would love to live in Canada or the United States but unless you are a millionaire or have a work permit then they won't even look at you, so not as easy as that I'm afraid.  If it was I would move there tomorrow.

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Latest Euro 4 (High Res) suggests flow veering slightly NE during Early hrs of Sun with Sleet / snow showers  pushing well in land (almost to west mds)

 

Up until then mainly dry for our region i expect

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Yep as the flow veers to more East of North there is the chance of a few surprises making their way inland.

 

Not too dissimilar to this:

 

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Then as the flow veered NE'ly during the day areas of snow were bought inland across the Eastern side of England:

 

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Result - gridlock on the M11 from unexpected snowfall and about 6 inches of snow.

 

Expect the unexpected.

 

SK

Indeed, I was stuck in that one M25 then  M11. from memory which is not all that reliable now!  I think that was one of the years the EA were criticise for gritting too early in the afternoon after snow showers in the morning which did not come to much we had rain which washed away the salt then it snowed and froze. I remember if I have the right year I was coming back round the M25 from a customer site and when I got on the M11, it was sheet ice and jackknifed lorries to weave in and out of! interesting journey home, happy days!

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So what happened to the 5, 6 or even 7C being forecast today by the Beeb? 0.6C here in Mid-Suffolk. Doesn't feel as cold as yesterday though thanks to the wind dropping.

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after heading out it seems I was a tad wrong with how much snow we had...It was more like 2 inches. WoW. If it doesn't snow any more this winter i'll be just as happy :)

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A light wintry shower here now. A mix of light rain/sleety. Snow level doesn't look that high up. Just the wrong side of marginal at the moment. Still it's only a few scattered showers mixed with sunny spells so not all bad. I might add the showers clipping into NE Norfolk do appear to be falling as snow.

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Latest Euro 4 (High Res) suggests flow veering slightly NE during Early hrs of Sun with Sleet / snow showers  pushing well in land (almost to west mds)

 

Up until then mainly dry for our region i expect

 

Finally!

 

To be honest a North West wind is even more dire than a northerly, we were very lucky to see any snow this week

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GFS pops up with this a bit sooner 

 

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EURO4 and NMM showing some support for it too, though not nearly to the extent of the GFS. Wintry showers moving down the Eastern side of the country and into East Anglia, more of a sleety mix for anywhere that isn't Norfolk though

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Outlook for Sunday to Tuesday
Cold and mainly dry with bright spells for Sunday and Monday, along with widespread frost. Risk of rain and sleet for a time Tuesday, but some sunny spells also likely.

 

 

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COAB! We're on day 1 of what is potentially a week-long cold snap and we're not even into what is traditionally the snowiest month of the year. Let's get some perspective please? Really bad winters are very rare in this country, cold snaps are more usual and that is what we're getting. If you want snowdrifts, white-outs, 14 ice days on the bounce, lake-effect blizzards and the guarantee of snow every winter can I respectfully suggest you try living somewhere other than "Southeast England and East Anglia".

 

 

I dread to think how some of you will cope when a real life crisis hits you.

Most people are simply looking for a inch or two of snow before springtime

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GFS pops up with this a bit sooner 

 

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Interesting chart given the very short time frame – as others have said the key for our region is to remove the pesky westerly element from the wind (to be fair that is the key for many English regions – save the likes of the Peak District with elevation that do very well from Nor'westers). I'm intrigued by the potential for the breeze to spin round to east of north next week too – which can give proper easterly powder snow at which our region excels when the conditions are right! 

 

In a similar vein I was reading a fascinating extract from an oldish book called the Climate Regions of England (or some such) the other day. It was saying the SE corner is a quasi-continental climate (hence the low ppn which has frustrated us at times this winter) and can actually be the COLDEST English region in many set ups, due to being exposed to easterlies and sheltered from milder westerly flows. Of course, many members know that but I think we do well to remind ourselves when things are not going our way that this region is very much capable of sound winter, as well as summer, conditions at times. 

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Well 'slushgate' is almost over in Burnham when I left (where we had just over 1cm) - drove to Maldon later around 12 noon and absolutely nothing, either they had no snow or it has melted very quickly.

 

Good give me a decent easterly over this any day!! - temps now: 2.8C and rising.

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