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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
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  • Location: The North Kent countryside

Well that is the big question. Human nature is not easily understandable. My opinion? Some would have been psychopaths, some would have been horrified, but did it in fear of losing their own lives and some would have unfortunately got used to it and no longer felt so bad about doing it.

 

Interestingly the whole practice of modern Psychology came about after the Holocaust where Jewish scientists and some of the officers involved in it and ashamed at what they had done, clubbed together to fund research as to what makes people do such things.

 

The Milgram experiment demonstrates perfectly how normal humans can do something really quite nasty, just because they are being told to.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

Which leads to the frightening conclusion that we are all capable of descending into depravity given the right circumstances.

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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
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  • Location: The North Kent countryside

Absolutely.

 

On the plus side, it also suggests it can be reversible.

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  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Location: South Yorkshire

Laserguy, you have to remember stuff happens in your brain and body that you won't even be aware of. You could be watching gay porn and not feel a thing, but it doesn't mean your brain is not responding to it positively.

 

Maybe,maybe not. But if any response is only detectable under 'laboratory conditions' and with highly sensitive equipment etc, then it's a moot point. I am, to all intents and purposes, completely heterosexual. And you wouldn't catch me watching gay porn in the first place, I'll have you know!

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)

If homosexuality is genetic how does it work where you have identical twins where one is straight and the other is homosexual as their genetic make up is exactly the same..or is there a homosexual gene that can be turned on at some point in the womb etc?

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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, snowy winters and thunderstorms!
  • Location: The North Kent countryside

If homosexuality is genetic how does it work where you have identical twins where one is straight and the other is homosexual as their genetic make up is exactly the same..or is there a homosexual gene that can be turned on at some point in the womb etc?

 

Something can be genetic and not hereditary.

 

For example a genetic mutation can cause a deformity for example, but it doesn't mean that is hereditary. Plus if it is genetic, we don't know to what extent.

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  • Location: Rochester, Kent
  • Location: Rochester, Kent

As always nature vs nurture.

 

It is wholly unlikely to be primarily genetics. If that were the case, then, by definition, reproduction will reduce, and such genes would be very unlikely to be passed on to the next generation. It is very likely to be a combination of a particular set of genes in a particular environment (epigenetics) that sets sexuality of any description.

 

That all said, I don't believe that it's a choice; people are who they are.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

What are they teaching in schools these days is getting out of control,well that's the US for you.

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=28959

 

Everyone has a masculine and femine side,some more to the female side males,as female more to the male side tomboy side that's all natural.

Androgynous is neither male or female but both,it goes with everything in nature like trees,some trees produce seeds and some don`t with the same species.

 

Off topic.

Those true blondes from Norway/Sweden nordics,I know a pure blonde guy down the road who`s with a brunette girl and had 2 redhead children,so blonde and redheads are of the same gene.

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  • Location: Orleton, 6 miles south of Ludlow
  • Location: Orleton, 6 miles south of Ludlow

Can we not call it "gayness" it's homosexuality. Sorry it bothers me!! haha!!

I don't think its genetic at all, surely we shouldn't be studying people to find out what causes homosexuality etc. It seems immoral to me.

For fair balance, you can study people to find possible causes of homosexuality providing you also study people to find possible causes of heterosexuality. If there is a cause of homosexuality there must be a cause of heterosexuality, surely? Just as a gay person may state 'i was born like that', so too could a straight person. Edited by picog
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  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Location: South Yorkshire

For fair balance, you can study people to find possible causes of homosexuality providing you also study people to find possible causes of heterosexuality. If there is a cause of homosexuality there must be a cause of heterosexuality, surely? Just as a gay person may state 'i was born like that', so too could a straight person.

 

The 'cause' of my 100% heterosexuality is that I was born 'normal', in that way at least. That's gonna raise hackles no doubt, but it's not meant to. I was born with Asperger's, along with a myriad of other (undiagnosed) 'faults'. Not necessarily problems - but aberrations all the same. Is anyone 'perfect'? What sort of world would that be?

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  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Location: South Yorkshire

What exactly are you implying there? Are you saying that homosexuality is not "normal" even though it naturally occurs in other species as well as humans? It almost seems like you're saying that it's a disability.

 

Are you deliberately trying to goad me into saying something I might regret - again? I'm saying that heterosexuality is by far and away the dominant trait - like people who do not have Asperger's, for example. I'm not for one moment saying that there is anything 'wrong' with it. What is it these days with everyone wanting to over-analyse and categorise?

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......

I think aspergers/autism is just part of a sliding scale in us all? Some folk are more 'that way' than others like eyesight with a range from blind to 20 20??? Maybe we'd be better looking at sexuality in that way too with all of us holding the potential for same sex relationships but only the folk more blessed with that desire acting on it in more than platonic, non sexual way ( with the rest just doing the BFF's, bromances etc thing).

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  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Location: South Yorkshire

I'm not trying to goad you into saying anything. The wording of your post was just a bit ambiguous and I just wanted to clarify what you were saying, that's all.

 

Thanks - I'm glad that's cleared up. Did my response make sense? I didn't think it was ambiguous - just pointing out that one's sexuality is one of thousands of variables that make us what we are.

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