Model Banter, Moans and Ramps Autumn/Winter 2014/15.

[shetland islands]

Winter is most definitely over. 15 C next week in any sunshine in the South. Think most on the MOD thread are clutching the very final straws.

[Smiler1709]

Lovely high pressure showing on the mods. As stated straw clutching at there finest on the mod thread.

[knocker]

Without question straw clutching has become an art form.

[Timmytour]

Some similaties in the current  position with 1959 which, though a cold month overall, ended up producing some warm weather towards the end of the month





However the trend at this stage in 1959 was for the high to drift west and pressure to rise over the UK.  I think we're looking at a tendency for the high to drift east and pressure to fall.  I think February might still hold a wintry surprise in store for us...

[mushymanrob]

Warm for me is a t- shirt.That it is not.Long way to go before spring up here.

 

why do you castagorise 'spring' as t shirt weather?... theres FAR more to spring like weather then just abit of warmth and sun. went out yesterday afternoon without a coat on as i could feel the sun... that to me can be described as 'warm' for early feb!

 

"Strong Sun" Hmmm

 

didnt you go out yesterday?

i did. the air was unusually clear, the skies were crystal clear and the stars last night were many and bright. with the low angle of the sun, and no breeze, the sun yesterday could be felt diirectly on the body, all of the body, not just the 'upper facing' areas like in summer. so yesterday the sun did feel strong, and it was warm, tinglingly so.... plus i took the dogs a walk with no coat on, just in my shirt quite comfortably as long as i was in the sun (it was chilly of course in shaded areas).

Edited February 10, 2015 by mushymanrob

[frosty ground]

why do you castagorise 'spring' as t shirt weather?... theres FAR more to spring like weather then just abit of warmth and sun. went out yesterday afternoon without a coat on as i could feel the sun... that to me can be described as 'warm' for early feb!

 

 

didnt you go out yesterday?

i did. the air was unusually clear, the skies were crystal clear and the stars last night were many and bright. with the low angle of the sun, and no breeze, the sun yesterday could be felt diirectly on the body, all of the body, not just the 'upper facing' areas like in summer. so yesterday the sun did feel strong, and it was warm, tinglingly so.... plus i took the dogs a walk with no coat on, just in my shirt quite comfortably as long as i was in the sun (it was chilly of course in shaded areas).

Pretty sure the Sun had the same strength last year at the same time as it dose this year I would go one further and say the suns strength will be the same next year at the same time, it runs like clock work in that regard....... UV Rating 1 or 2....... Yeah springlike....... 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Sun is certainly much stronger and higher in sky in Feb, than Dec or Jan, sun will thaw more snow in Feb, due to being stronger, and shining on more surfaces being higher

[Gray-Wolf]

Well I enjoyed my 'Hour in the sun' ( LOL) glad I got the small garden decked, seems better at soaking up the heat than cold , bare earth...... just wish we didn't have the cloud to deal with esp. when the sat shows clearings so close to us!!!

[mountain shadow]

In terms of any late Winter fun (late Feb/early March) it is currently Tamara/Netweather v Meto/EC32.

 

Tamara appears to remain bullish about a late Winter/early Spring Polar blast, however neither the EC32 and Meto monthlies show the slighest sign of it.

 

Who will be right?

[mushymanrob]

Pretty sure the Sun had the same strength last year at the same time as it dose this year I would go one further and say the suns strength will be the same next year at the same time, it runs like clock work in that regard....... UV Rating 1 or 2....... Yeah springlike....... 

 

a pretty daft reply if i might say so.

yes the sun is pretty constant in its radiant heat/light etc... but what isnt constant is our atmosphere. yesterday in particular it was unusually (but pleasantly) clear. there was hardly any noticable pollutants or moisture so the sun felt warmer then usual. the stars were very bright last night too, you could see loads.

 

as for 'springlike'.... good greif... how many times? ... spring isnt A particular weather type...there are loads of weather types that youd expect in spring. for a few hours yesterday in my area (and i dare say quite a sizable chuck of the east) it was very much 'springlike' ( as in weather youd expect in early spring) even philip averay descibed it as such! not only that but there was a butterfly flitting past! (daft thing, it obviously hasnt read your post! lol)

[Chief Wiggam]

Cleaning a black car yesterday the sun was sufficiently strong at 15.40 to produce a noticeable amount of evaporation showing as wisps of vapour where the water (cold) was drying.  On Sunday here it was glorious and warm enough to sit in the very bright sun..........surely it's all over bar the (forum) shouting?

 

Mind you today is a sack of cack but we are on the right track

Edited February 10, 2015 by Chief Wiggam

[frosty ground]

a pretty daft reply if i might say so.

yes the sun is pretty constant in its radiant heat/light etc... but what isnt constant is our atmosphere. yesterday in particular it was unusually (but pleasantly) clear. there was hardly any noticable pollutants or moisture so the sun felt warmer then usual. the stars were very bright last night too, you could see loads.

 

as for 'springlike'.... good greif... how many times? ... spring isnt A particular weather type...there are loads of weather types that youd expect in spring. for a few hours yesterday in my area (and i dare say quite a sizable chuck of the east) it was very much 'springlike' ( as in weather youd expect in early spring) even philip averay descibed it as such! not only that but there was a butterfly flitting past! (daft thing, it obviously hasnt read your post! lol)

Basically a mild winters day. 

The fact you can feel the sun in mid December under the right conditions doesn't make it Spring like.

 

[mushymanrob]

Basically a mild winters day. 

The fact you can feel the sun in mid December under the right conditions doesn't make it Spring like.

 

 

isnt a mild winters day 'springlike' (early spring)? in december it would still feel like autumn... because as i keep insisting, theres more to a season then one single weather type... and more to a season then weather!  my snowdrops are out, some early daffs are out (there is an early variety) , the scent in the air was that glorious fresh spring type and the native birds were singing their springtime courtship songs.... in 9c and bright/strong sun that could have passed off for mid-late march.

anyway, its dull and chilly today, as expected (lol) but at least its calm and dry.... great weather for outdoor winter work!

[Milhouse]

isnt a mild winters day 'springlike' (early spring)? in december it would still feel like autumn... because as i keep insisting, theres more to a season then one single weather type... and more to a season then weather!  my snowdrops are out, some early daffs are out (there is an early variety) , the scent in the air was that glorious fresh spring type and the native birds were singing their springtime courtship songs.... in 9c and bright/strong sun that could have passed off for mid-late march.

anyway, its dull and chilly today, as expected (lol) but at least its calm and dry.... great weather for outdoor winter work!

 

A cool and blustery day in Mid August would be described as Autumnal, and ive heard a deep low in summer being described as Autumnal many times. Hence Springlike is an appropriate term to use in Winter. It wouldnt describe the conditions here today though. Thoroughly cold damp and miserable.

[cheese]

The sun came out again today despite forecasts of unrelenting gloom.

[phil nw.]

February is looking increasingly disappointing from a cold pov.

It looks more and more like Winter proper is fading away in a weak Atlantic westerly setup with periods of Azores ridging and temperatures around average.

Some night frosts around and maybe fog here and there but no sign of any deep cold in the next 2 weeks i would say.

That Canadian/Greenland vortex just will not relent. 

[Ali1977]

Let's hope next winter NE USA is warm and we have a 1947/63 winter....they are having some epic cold, which unfortunately is assisting in creating an epic PV....defo no chance of a Scandy high in the next 10 days, and beyond that looks no better. We are then knocking on into March.

[Harsh Climate]

In terms of any late Winter fun (late Feb/early March) it is currently Tamara/Netweather v Meto/EC32.

 

Tamara appears to remain bullish about a late Winter/early Spring Polar blast, however neither the EC32 and Meto monthlies show the slighest sign of it.

 

Who will be right?

 

Well considering it's possible any winter to have a polar blast with snow right up until the start of may, I'll stick my neck out and say I expect a late ''Winter/early Spring Polar blast'' as that gives me about 11 weeks for one to come along and prove me right...  . 

Edited February 10, 2015 by Harsh Climate

[DAVID SNOW]

why do you castagorise 'spring' as t shirt weather?... theres FAR more to spring like weather then just abit of warmth and sun. went out yesterday afternoon without a coat on as i could feel the sun... that to me can be described as 'warm' for early feb!

 

 

didnt you go out yesterday?

i did. the air was unusually clear, the skies were crystal clear and the stars last night were many and bright. with the low angle of the sun, and no breeze, the sun yesterday could be felt diirectly on the body, all of the body, not just the 'upper facing' areas like in summer. so yesterday the sun did feel strong, and it was warm, tinglingly so.... plus i took the dogs a walk with no coat on, just in my shirt quite comfortably as long as i was in the sun (it was chilly of course in shaded areas).

 

 

Yes: we booked a short winter break away today, lots of choices though, Gran Canaria and Tenerife looked lovely in the brochure with pictures of clear sunny skies and a ' strong' sun, and as for the pictures of Tangier wow is all I can say. But in the end we booked a short winter break in............Derbyshire!  Its the sun wot did it!!

 

 As for the weather here, well its been rather cloudy and chilly

[mushymanrob]

Yes: we booked a short winter break away today, lots of choices though, Gran Canaria and Tenerife looked lovely in the brochure with pictures of clear sunny skies and a ' strong' sun, and as for the pictures of Tangier wow is all I can say. But in the end we booked a short winter break in............Derbyshire!  Its the sun wot did it!!

 

 As for the weather here, well its been rather cloudy and chilly

Should have come here yesterday then, it was great lol

Yep its looking cloudy n chilly here, but dry n calm so good outdoors.

[PHLIPPY67]

Just seen that Boston has had another 2ft of fresh snow...!!

[Daniel*]

Just seen that Boston has had another 2ft of fresh snow...!!

Boston this Boston that.

[knocker]

Bullseye!!!

Chart courtesy weatherbell

 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Boston this Boston that.

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I know, who gives a damn!

[Severe Siberian icy blast]

What yet another absolute pathetic excuse of a winter , it's as bad as any of the snowless winters in the past . Yes some areas saw snow particuarly up north , but away from high ground it's been an absolute flop . Iv saw 5 dusting of snow with every single on of them been gone by midday . What a let down , this year had so much promise that's what makes it harder to take . Really look forward now to solar minimum in a few years