iceland Bárðarbunga and Askja - Volcanic Activity

[Skullzrulerz]

Yes but Krakatoa is much smaller than Bada and it was only water not ice that fell into the chamber.

Bada is the largest volcano of its type on the planet its caldera is 23kms accross and it has erupted more lava than any other volcano on Earth in the last 10,000 years.

The bang would be bigger.

 

The VE6 was cause by a VE3 or less that emptied the caldera so it collapsed and the sea rushed in, it blew up and ejected enough to total a 6.

 

So Bárðarbunga could be worse then Krakatoa then?

 

Guessing that Bárðarbunga is going to go boom sooner then of later how serious do you think this could be?

 

Worst case scenario???

[john pike]

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/#view=table

Now 99 quality so has been reviewed

5.1. Only 2km deep

http://en.vedur.is/

Read the specialists remark

[Rustynailer]

So Bárðarbunga could be worse then Krakatoa then?

 

Guessing that Bárðarbunga is going to go boom sooner then of later how serious do you think this could be?

 

Worst case scenario???

Worst case it would be bad for Iceland damage like blown out windows and roofs of 250 Km away in their capitol.

EQ Mag8+, its the 23 Km across caldera floor covered by a 500m thick ice cap dropping all at once onto a 1000 degree C chamber, "Tzar Bomb"

Very bad indeed is the worst case. Krakatoa is 1 tenth the size.

More likely another EJ or Grims from 2010 and 2011 in my opinion though, thankfully, the partial collapse option.....

 

What I think will happen is that the collapse will occur as a series of eruptions over a few years or tens of years, as I said before we are in uncharted territory here.

[The PIT]

Or to be more positive it maybe a small quiet eruption. List of Bard's eruptions here http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=373030

Although it can produce large eruptions is also produces a lot of small ones as well.

We don't know what will happen.

[Tom Jarvis]

all the webcams can be found here http://volcams.malinpebbles.com/pubweb/Iceland.htm

[Allseasons-Si]

All you need to know about Bárðarbunga

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1r%C3%B0arbunga

 

tell me if i am wrong but has she been stiring since 1996?

Edited August 25, 2014 by Allseasons-si

[Rustynailer]

All you need to know about Bárðarbunga

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1r%C3%B0arbunga

 

tell me if i am wrong but she's been stiring since 1996

Yes she has, this is just part of a build up that could last 100's years or could go in an instant. The weather is easier to predict as we see more of it and usually on average survive after it has done its thing, we actually survive to tell the tale.

With volcanoes we don't know that much as they tend to wipe everything out when they go caldera plus ice. Thats why the Vikings found an empty land.....

All the worlds calderas are not the same, some last ages and are massive some don't last long and are small, as science proves its self wrong every few tens of years, (LOL pier reviewed study) the "learned experts" are right about as often as my dog after a few beers in the grand scale of things.

The only people who truly know what will happen are a some farmers and hunters with names that sound like some "Viking " and have not let their instincts become corrupted with too much education, they will have grown up near Bada. Their DNA will survive longer than any of ours, that is all that matters. 

Edited August 25, 2014 by Rustynailer

[Allseasons-Si]

Yes she has, this is just part of a build up that could last 100's years or could go in an instant. The weather is easier to predict as we see more of it and usually on average survive after it has done its thing, we actually survive to tell the tale.

With volcanoes we don't know that much as they tend to wipe everything out when they go caldera plus ice. Thats why the Vikings found an empty land.....

All the worlds calderas are not the same, some last ages and are massive some don't last long and are small, as science proves its self wrong every few tens of years, (LOL pier reviewed study) the "learned experts" are right about as often as my dog after a few beers in the grand scale of things.

The only people who truly know what will happen are a some farmers and hunters with names that sound like some "Viking " and have not let their instincts become corrupted with too much education, they will have grown up near Bada. Their DNA will survive longer than any of ours, that is all that matters. 

Thanks for clearing that up Rustynailer

 

if she does go big would it create a tsunami and would we be efected by it as well as Norway and other surrounding land. 

[Rustynailer]

Thanks for clearing that up Rustynailer

 

if she does go big would it create a tsunami and would we be efected by it as well as Norway and other surrounding land. 

A Tsunami would be created by a worse case collapse yes, it stands to reason that the shock wave would damage eardrums far away too.

Regarding wave height grab a mag 8 and drop it on Bada It could be 10 times as bad if the explosion went all the way.

Mag 9 would not be out of the question as Bada and Grims are more or less in direct contact with the mantle via the Hot spot which they sit right over.

Chuck 23 Sq Km of 500m thick ice on that.....

 

Sun spots, I have a question are they even slightly involved in this this time? Anybody Does the sun influence this? Not a trick I just ask.

Edited August 25, 2014 by Rustynailer

[Polar Maritime]

 Anybody Does the sun influence this? Not a trick I just ask.

 

There is no real evidence as yet, The Weather it certainly does.. But not with immediate effect. 

Edited August 25, 2014 by Polar Maritime

[john pike]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_eruption_of_Mount_St._Helens

Have a read

Very informative

There are studies looking at lower solar higher volcanic links

But all early stages

[Rustynailer]

There is no real evidence as yet.

My instinct says there is, but my brain says no.

Maybe we can all learn from this if something happens that we can record.

 Lets hope its a normal "tourist eruption" and or rift this time

An interesting time on the Internet.

[tinybill]

     

http://baering.github.io/

 

there seems a lot now just below the surface  at  the moment

[Rustynailer]

"If Bardarbunga didn’t go caldera in 1477" oh pooh, that means that there is also the dangerous lava likeRhyolite OMG that is bad squared. Bad to the power of three

We will be fine, its OK.

Badabunga takes the Ice bucket Challange, coming soon.....

Edited August 26, 2014 by Cakie
Changed font size

[Rustynailer]

I did not make my letters big intentionally.

Anyway watch the news and take care all.

Changed it for you - Cakie

Edited August 26, 2014 by Cakie
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[Buriedundersnow]

 

Sun spots, I have a question are they even slightly involved in this this time? Anybody Does the sun influence this? Not a trick I just ask.

 

 

if your looking into that I wouldn't be looking into sunspots if anything is going to affect volcanism it would be magnetics and how that interacts.

[Rustynailer]

if your looking into that I wouldn't be looking into sunspots if anything is going to affect volcanism it would be magnetics and how that interacts.

Yes and this magnetics leads me to think that the denser metals spin at the centers of the Sun and planets like a generator.  So  there must be an influence, metals like Uranium spinning at the center of the Earth must react with the like in the Sun.

No peers to consult because they do not know. Science is at a loss here.

Instinct is all that is left.

[Rustynailer]

Dear science if one wants to have a peaceful existence after Earthly death.......

One must trust instinct, DNA don't you know.....

 

Always have been a cocky little sh....

9t

Edited August 25, 2014 by Rustynailer

[Allseasons-Si]

Have been viewing this link for a couple of days now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoISDUAPNgc#t=17223

 

(chatroom),most of it is a load of tosh but some of the members have a informative view on things,also some funny moments lol.

[Sussex Jules]

Have been viewing this link for a couple of days now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoISDUAPNgc#t=17223

 

(chatroom),most of it is a load of tosh but some of the members have a informative view on things,also some funny moments lol.

Have been watching it on and off too, some of the trolls in there are worse than we get on here!

[Tom Jarvis]

some saying it has erupted lol as if just clouds on the webcams

[Allseasons-Si]

This is the image at Kverkfjoll @20:30

 

 

but i don't know when this snap was taken,i can not see the date/time in the snap

 

 

seems to me that there is some melt  on the lake and slope with some steam vents there.

[Allseasons-Si]

BÃRÃARBUNGA 2 live cam has gone to night vision

 

http://volcams.malinpebbles.com/pubweb/Iceland.htm

[Moomin71]

Thanks for clearing that up Rustynailer

 

if she does go big would it create a tsunami and would we be efected by it as well as Norway and other surrounding land. 

Allseasons, even if this volcano has a cataclysmic eruption as Krakatoa did it will not generate tsunamis.  It is too far from the coast whereas Krakatoa was a very small island and surrounded by enormous volumes of sea water which was able to contact the magma immediately after the eruption.  There is obviously plenty of water around Bardabunga in ice form, however this will potentially cause a much more explosive eruption and generate lahars and its distance from the coast means it cannot interact with the sea in a manner which would give rise to tsunamis. 

 

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[Allseasons-Si]

Allseasons, even if this volcano has a cataclysmic eruption as Krakatoa did it will not generate tsunamis.  It is too far from the coast whereas Krakatoa was a very small island and surrounded by enormous volumes of sea water which was able to contact the magma immediately after the eruption.  There is obviously plenty of water around Bardabunga in ice form, however this will potentially cause a much more explosive eruption and generate lahars and its distance from the coast means it cannot interact with the sea in a manner which would give rise to tsunamis. 

 

m

Yeah,and Krakatoa is much smaller than Bardabunga,which is why i have my optimism,iceland is mostly one big volcano as i see it.