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A SNOWFLAKE!!!!!! I jsut saw one! Ok, it was literally just one and I can't see any more, but it went past my window and it was very definitely a snowflake!

Well! I just had to clean coffee from my screen after reading that! Sounds as if we  are all in serious danger of losing it! Picture! or it didn't happen!Posted Image

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It's one snowflake more than I've seen in a very long time, and I shall treasure the memory, even if naysayers and scoffers may disbelieve me!

Actually, it's a SSE wind so it might blow past here! *runs to get camera*

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My understanding of the strat is hugely limited, but this looks good to me, it's been showing up on several runs now and can only help to shift the vortex away from its permahome over Canada/Greenland:

 

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Been a serious RTC up at Drumochter. A lorry and 3 vehicles apparently.

I hate reading things like this, gives me  the creeps!  Hope it isn't too bad, but sounds ominous.Posted Image

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My understanding of the strat is hugely limited, but this looks good to me, it's been showing up on several runs now and can only help to shift the vortex away from its permahome over Canada/Greenland:

 

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Normally if it continued it should. My thoughts go much deeper than that though. (nuff said)

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Heavy rain with just a hint of sleetiness on the windows. Strong SE wind. 2.6C.

Looking round the traffic cams only Drummochter! Glenogle and Carter Bar appear to have lying snow? The queue from the accident apparent at. Drummochter. A queue at Glenogle too. Gates closed at the usual places.

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A few of what I'd basically describe as ice pellets mixed in with the odd wet snowflake in central Edinburgh, the dry area on the map over the central belt did rather suggest it would be a non-event for Edinburgh because of a lack of precipitation. Hoping for selfish reasons that the overnight band hits further east (it's been hard to pin down so still entirely possible I guess) but either way whoever's under that has a decent chance of waking up to a covering. Difficult to gauge the intensity/speed of the front but it does look potentially quite heavy and out with daylight hours that very often means settling snow, particularly with cold air undercutting.

Heavy rain with just a hint of sleepiness on the windows.

I think we're all pretty tired of chasing these setups to be honest... Edited by LomondSnowstorm
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Problems up Glen Ogle too by the looks of the cam.(edit: gone :huh: )

 

Edit: Just seen that Norrance has beaten me to it. I'm almost glad to be safe but bored in the house Posted Image

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As expected, it's grey, wet, windy and miserable here, so no change on the theme for Winter 13/14 so far. Rain fairly constant now but not overly heavy by recent standards. Temp dropped a bit but still sitting up at 4.0/3.0C in Dyce.

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I'm shocked reading through this thread. Coastal Dumfries has had snow for around an hour that didn't lie. All hills above 150m or so are very white and many places a little further inland have seen a good covering of snow. I'm surprised most of you have seen less than me given your far greater elevation and distance from the west coasts. Hopefully you get some tonight :)

I think the game for winter proper is up tbh. Yes, the Strat looks better but by the time tht propagates down, even if it is successful in either reducing the power of the Canadian PV or by deflecting lows southwards, it will be at least mid-Feb. So we can still get cold till April given our latitude over Kent for example, but real cold I.e -10 and below looks unlikely.

If the lows can undercut then lots of snow could fall in marginal conditions. I'm not saying we can't see snow but realistically the real cold will not occur this winter IMHO. The rain just continues...

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I'm shocked reading through this thread. Coastal Dumfries has had snow for around an hour that didn't lie. All hills above 150m or so are very white and many places a little further inland have seen a good covering of snow. I'm surprised most of you have seen less than me given your far greater elevation and distance from the west coasts. Hopefully you get some tonight Posted Image

I think the game for winter proper is up tbh. Yes, the Strat looks better but by the time tht propagates down, even if it is successful in either reducing the power of the Canadian PV or by deflecting lows southwards, it will be at least mid-Feb. So we can still get cold till April given our latitude over Kent for example, but real cold I.e -10 and below looks unlikely.

If the lows can undercut then lots of snow could fall in marginal conditions. I'm not saying we can't see snow but realistically the real cold will not occur this winter IMHO. The rain just continues...

 

We've certainly had a few wintry late winters/early springs, March 2006 for example was exceptionally snowy for Aberdeenshire and contained quite an impressive breakdown snowfall on the 12th, and of course last winter (how much was there with you then? Arran and much of the southwest got buried). I wouldn't be expecting any 2009/10 levels of cold certainly but there's still a fair bit of time left, and the strat could potentially have an immediate feedback (very hit and miss of course but it did happen in late January 2009 and although we didn't directly benefit as much as we would've liked we were quite unlucky to miss out then). As long as we get a decent chunk of the vortex into Eurasia (ideally a Scandi trough setup) there will be some deep cold to be tapped into, but it certainly would've been better a month or two ago.

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I'm shocked reading through this thread. Coastal Dumfries has had snow for around an hour that didn't lie. All hills above 150m or so are very white and many places a little further inland have seen a good covering of snow. I'm surprised most of you have seen less than me given your far greater elevation and distance from the west coasts. Hopefully you get some tonight Posted Image

I think the game for winter proper is up tbh. Yes, the Strat looks better but by the time tht propagates down, even if it is successful in either reducing the power of the Canadian PV or by deflecting lows southwards, it will be at least mid-Feb. So we can still get cold till April given our latitude over Kent for example, but real cold I.e -10 and below looks unlikely.

If the lows can undercut then lots of snow could fall in marginal conditions. I'm not saying we can't see snow but realistically the real cold will not occur this winter IMHO. The rain just continues...

 

I completely agree with this, we're past the stage of getting snow cover then days on end of sub-zero temperature. However, as you seem to suggest, there is a world of difference between chasing proper cold and chasing snow. If I'm true to my heart I'd rather see falling snow than watch lovely snow cover turn dirty and 'orrible over a few days or weeks :good:

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Well! I just had to clean coffee from my screen after reading that! Sounds as if we  are all in serious danger of losing it! Picture! or it didn't happen!Posted Image

 

Call the Express, they can use as evidence this happened

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/443462/Winter-2013-expected-to-be-worst-since-1947-with-heavy-and-persistent-snow-forecast-for-UK

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Well Im surprised at some of you lot not getting much precipitation, as it literally peed heavy here all the afternoon. Got drenched on the school run. It has now stopped though. 

 

Folks in kingussie reported a sleety/snow/rain mix - but even there it was not for settling or coming to anything today. 

 

However, I've heard the ski centres are getting a nice pasting today.

 

edit - raining away again here

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Actually, it's a SSE wind so it might blow past here! *runs to get camera*

Sheesh. Send it on this way when you're done. Fack all here, I reckon the snow line's about 500m on the local hills, seems quite a clean line, as Tempestwatch said earlier.

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